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Recieved: 2000/08/01 19:09
Subject: Re: [K-list] Nature of psychic phenomena
From: Mrkstavish
On 2000/08/01 19:09, Mrkstavish posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 8/1/00 7:44:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
aurasphereATnospamhome.com writes:
>
> Second insight was the meaning of the "word" Kundalini... <snip>Then
> the word Kundalini started vibrating, glistening and glittering
> scintillatingly in front of my eyes, broke up and exploded so to say into
two
> parts "Kunda" and "Linga". Now I'm somewhat of an armchair linguist, but I
> know well enough the meaning of "kunda" as it also appears in many
languages
> in the form of kont, kunt, cunt, kut, meaning vagina. Linga is of course
the
> term for phallus or penis.
This kind of adhoc verbage is known as the 'language of the birds' and
represents a kind of 'phonetic qabala' seen in Middle Eastern (and I assume
elsewhere) texts. It is a kind of spiritual pun working of off the idea of
'sounds like' rather than 'means' to get to a different meaning of a word. It
is very useful for interpreting dreams where fused words or images appear.
Then at some intense timeless moment in this
> revealing experience some cosmic copulation, ejaculation and absorption
took
> place between our good mother earth and this wonderfully powerful heaven of
> ours
This is seen in the Egyptian texts as the union of Geb (Earth) and Nuit
(Heaven/Sky) and is a purely phallic symbol where, she 'gets to be ontop'.
For better or worse, Aleister Crowley had a great deal to say about their
symbolic union and its uses in ritual practices.
(Jesus used the term uranois for heavens. Wow, he knew a few things more
> than what is reported in the bible.)
Could you please give a reference for this?
> When I emerged from that experience I knew how to reintroduce Kundalini,
the
> Aura and Chakras back to the Chinese culture (as I was invited to do as
part
> of a business arrangement)back to that culture from where we at one point
> stole it, misunderstood and malformed it. (Ok I'm probably saying this too
> strongly, but we as colonists, pirates and vampiric opportunists, hahahaha,
> do not have such a good track record.)
Pardon my bluntness, but I didn't know there was a single 'Chinese culture'
despite their attempts to be monocultural and singular. Also, if I remember
my history, if we want to stay with the Indian term 'kundalini', it was
Indian monks that introduced a great deal into China, thus forming the famous
Chinese systems of boxing (Kung Fu) so as to get their lazy 'muladhara'
chakras off the rice matts and into shape.
China is no virgin either..lets take a look at how they treated each other
before colonialization and after - China in the 1920's and '30 what a great
place to be! They didn't need the Japanese, infact, being invaded gave them
a vague sense of unity. You know, fighting the' dwarf bandits' as they
called them. I guess the Japs were short even by Chinese standards. Then
there is the Tibet 'problem' ......
From that I produced slides that showed the creative
> energies converging into each other showing the traditional colours of the
> chakras (ROYGBIV) producing eventually the chakra paintings that Leadbeater
> so well depicted in 1927.
Traditional by who? There are at least four (4) differing views on color and
location presented in "Layayoga" by Shyam Sundat Goswami (Inner Traditions).
There are at least two (2) dozen different color, number, and location
schemes that I've seen. The ROYGBIV order is simply following the color scale
and is a recent 'contribution' to the chakra system. If anyone has a source
for it more than 100 years old, I'd be interested in seeing it.
Sorry, but Leadbeater (a probable pedophile) is not the best source to be
quoting.
> So... "Kundalini" means way more than "coiled up serpent". I have written
> before about the symbology of the serpent in the story of the development
of
> Kundalini and the mythical legend of Adam and Eve. The reasons for the
> connection of the serpent symbology with Kundalini is rather complex... To
> just say "coiled up serpent" is not giving the reality behind this powerful
> image enough credence and esteem.
In Genesis, the idea of the serpent also relates to the zodiac, or the means
by where the cosmic forces (of the seven planets- or psychic centers) relate
to the material world (the Elements). It starts 'coiled' or as the
Oroborous, the snake eating its tail, but then 'uncoils' and rests on the
head of Adam (humanity, 'man' , 'redman', etc). I don't think Vivikenanda,
nor I in quoting him, was suggesting that all the terms means is 'coiled
serpent'.
Sincerely,
Mark Stavish
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