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Recieved: 2000/07/25 08:34
Subject: RE: [K-list] Hello, Forwarded
From: joe Wood
On 2000/07/25 08:34, joe Wood posted thus to the K-list:
Ok, Chris,
"Chris, wow . . . . I know" yeah, I could have written yours too. So many
things became so clear, so many varying streams of information that I had
been trying to integrate for years (environmental, political, spiritual)
came together, into a spontaneous state of understanding the big picture.
then afterwards, the state of access to information remained - ask, and you
shall be answered, knock, and the door shall be opened. Such a wonderful
state of being - so calm, and energetic. And, by the way, such a state IS
where Einstein discovered his trusths - he would basically stare off, out a
window, for hours at a pop, zoning . . . or was it meditating? Anyway, he
would just kind of pose these questions at the beginnings of his
meanderings, then let go . . . and this new theory would come to him,
later. (That is roughly how it went - allowa little license, please.)
I, too, was diagnosed as manic, three months after my first culmination of
understanding and energy. the in-between time was rough, where some of my
ptrevioulsy alluded-to anger came in. I was in law school, no one really
understood what was going on (some friends took to calling me "jogi", others
quit calling . . .), and my system was far from ready for the big leap I had
tried to make. It has been over 5 years since then, and I am as uncertain
as ever about my experiences. I have had things go out of control three
other times, but have learned immensely along the way. I was hospitalized
only a few days after my blue room experience - too much fear accompanied
both the daylight and night hours, as I still had no one with me, to teach
me, console me, comfort me, or accept me and the (growth?) process that was
going on. I have since attended a variety of buddhist and yoga groups (very
briefly each, though - no extensive contact) and all reports are that i am
not manic-depressive, but still in the throes of the spiritual skin shedding
and rebirth. most haven't seen me in a 'bad' state, though. the only time
i was at sucha group in a 'manic' state, i ended up with an immense double
shadow projected from the sun behind me into the center of our meditation
circle, and in it were three refracted rainbows. i can't tell you what
places my egoistic sense of understanding and self visisted during that
eyes-closed meditaition, but that dark buddha-shadow with its rainbows were
very relevant to my meditations.
The movie screen is also used in some modern yoga texts, although my first
exposure to that analogy was in Richard Bach's Illusions (Adventures of a
Reluctant Messiah), one of the few books I read by/in high school that
allowed me the freedom i already deeply wanted to seek.
Gary's work is excellent too, although entities, entities everywhere - -
Aaaagggh! While I am sure many are real, I also think that they are
fragments of one's own personality coming to surface the only way they can
in the face of a still-in-control ego-mind computer that refuses to accept,
acknowledge, or deal with them in a conscious manner.
However, most all historic religions include examples of entity contact with
humans, be it angel a, b, or c, or devis or devas or deities of whatever
name or form. Gary always talks about your spirit guides - and while I have
had many friends who also relate to some such guide, that has not been the
case with me, at least consistently. I may be completely oblivious to such
presence, or maybe it's just that I usu. send all my prayers and energies to
the Source, whatever it's name is to others. Or maybe i've just alienated
myself from any such guides. or maybe . . .
the trouble with the grandiosity is when you think you are the only one who
gets it, or that you have THE unique vision, or THE way to do something. at
least, that is how i have learned to overcome some of the rush of energy
when i start tapping into that energy again - it's not just me. a friend
told me that amidst days of high psychic adventures, maybe manic, a few
weeks before the blue light - and she was right, she had lived on an ashram,
we all have/are that god-potential, and yet it still seems, when you get
down to the crucial moments, that there's something 'extra' for me to do,
something 'extra' special, that even others who are fully enlightened or
with raging, controlled kundalini are not privy too. still a heavy dose of
ego running lose in this machine, methinks.
Enough carving the fat - it's time for y'all to chew it
Geoff
------Original Message------
From: choldford <holdfordATnospambellsouth.net>
To: druoutATnospamaol.com
Sent: July 25, 2000 3:47:41 AM GMT
Subject: [K-list] Hello, Forwarded
Ona, wow....I know we already touched on this a little, but it is beyond
bizarre to sit here and read an email that could just as easily have
been written by me. LOL. snip
. When you say
that it is more like remembering than learning, I know EXACTLY what you
mean. In one of my "epiphanies" (my psychiatrist called them manic
episodes, so take your pick...LOL), I came up with this theory on how
our lives are merely projection screens for our own private viewing - to
learn lessons as our soul needs to learn them.
SNIP
Later that night I was almost asleep, and
BAM....the "download" started, and I had to literally sit up in bed,
turn on the light, and start talking it out. My husband was a little
freaked, needless to say. :)
But this movie projection theory was just rolling out of my mouth and it
was so overwhelming to me that I would have to hold my hand over my
mouth. Sounds weird, but I did. It wasn't uncomfortable my any
means...LOL...its a rush I have never known. I'm sure I *did* sound
rather grandiose at the time, because as it clicked over and over in my
head, and it was all making so much sense, I felt like pure bliss, and I
know I sounded (to my husband) like I thought I was Einstein or
something...
Anyway, about 3 months later, i was reading Gary Zukav's "Seat of the
Soul", and there was my movie projection theory in his book.
Ohhh....another freaky feeling. So that's when it started taking on the
feel of me "tapping in", and then I found out it was also a theory of
Carl Jung, give or take a few details, and Jung, of course, spoke of the
collective unconscious. I knew there was no way I could've known all of
that....but it has been in my mind, sorting itself out and making
beautiful sense to me, in response to a question I had posed to myself
earlier that evening.....
After that, answers started falling into my lap from every direction,
and it still hasn't stopped. I guess I'm still in my "manic episode",
right? ;)
Chris
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