To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/07/07 10:15
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Love the Enemy
From: Druout
On 2000/07/07 10:15, Druout posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 7/6/00 1:13:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
GCWein1111ATnospamaol.com writes:
<<Hillary, you're hopeless --- l give up on you. :) >>
Dear Jerry,
I love you too! :)
<< You detest killing so much that you don't distinguish
convicted murderer from judge and jury who punish. They (and 70% of the
American people) detest killing so much that they want the worst killers to
pay the ultimate price for it. l know you don't see it this way, but l don't
see all that much difference between their hatred of killing and yours. A
different way of dealing with it, for sure, but the hatred is the same.
>>
Wow! Did I give such an impassioned impression? I used the words "chilled"
and "reprehensible." How did that get translated into detesting and hatred?
:)) And we wonder where misunderstandings spring from! :))
<<lf we begin with the view that any form
of killing is utterly detestable and unthinkable under any and all
circumstances, then a clinical killing by the state can infuriate more than
any other. >>
This isn't really my point of view. If it were I imagine I'd be awfully
angry at God/dess for taking so much life. I think killing under some
circumstances is understandable.
<<Well, a view of killing that ignores all of the reasons and circumstances
behind it, that doesn't distinguish between the innocent and guilty >>
Oh I distinguish between guilt and innocence all right. I just find both
perpetrators equally guilty in the case of capital punishment.
<<You say you have a "60's
leftist position". Well, l'm a liberal everyplace else but on spiritual
lists like this, where l keep hearing outrageous statements that cause me to
react and take positions that seem eerily conservative.>>
Are they really so outrageous? I think they are just coming from a different
perspective. You seem to see things in terms of good and evil. Justice and
injustice. Top dog and underdog. I incline more to David's and Angelique's
positons...
Mystress: << Every holy book, is a platform for a holy war, one
truth insisting it is better than another. When does the need to express
the percieved insights become separation from those who do not agree, with
one side trying to "fix" the other? >>
David: <<Hitler, governments, victims' relatives and loved ones all have
beliefs
that tell them they are right.
Beliefs can be dangerous.>>
This goes for my beliefs as well, of course. :)
<<l've got to stop rising
to the bait and learn to leave it be -- or just leave the list. lt always
happens with off topic issues, which l'm going to try harder to avoid if l do
remain. Trouble is, nearly all conversation is off topic. We'll see. >>
Well, I certainly hope you don't feel that you are now the fox being hunted
:))
Love, Hillary
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