To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/06/17 18:36
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: flaming and list rules
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2000/06/17 18:36, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 07:32 PM 6/17/00 -0400, meeradji wrote:
>Kath, what Percyval did was vomiting his anger into our faces. What i did
was criticising that by ( trying to) pointing out the principle of
energetical pollution ....
>it's no matter of what I take on or not, because i "personally" was not
emotionally involved at all.
You are lying to yourself, Mia.. no offense intended, but this is not
the first time you have gotten on your white horse to defend the anonymous
victims. In order to do that you first have to make judgments.. and those
judgments are your own. It is your pattern. Playing the hero... for whom?
Who needs to be "saved"?
>I felt the pain as a representative of a certain energy and i reacted as
such. ( i "personally" am just sad that i have to be in this role and play
a part that obviously most of you don't understand and constantly attack
because "THAT" hurts ME personally).
What is the difference between the inside and the outside?
>Perhaps you and others could try to understand or at least accept my
statement that i comment or critize from an unpersonal level that has
nothing to do with what I personally feel or take on or have a problem
with. PLEASE try to not always reduce what i say to a personal fight me
against whoever. I have nothing against David or Percyval or whoever else.
For me they are manifesting a certain energy at a certain point in time and
something in me reacts on the energy.
Goddess doesn't judge.. so why do you, if you are being impersonal?
>I as I or Percyval as Percyval or David as David has nothing to do with
it..... at least as far as i'm concerned. Getting personally attacked for
it only shows that you don't get the point at all.
Who does not get the point? :)
>Why is nobody commenting on energetical pollution? Why is nobody
commenting on my thesis whether or not we are responsible for the energies
we are sending out?
>Is there an ethical responsibility connected to Kundalini energy?
When I was a 12 year old self-hypnotist I embedded "For the good of
all and harm to none" on every level of my being, to last until my death..
it seemed a very safe thing to do, and indeed, it gave me a "safe play
ground" to grow into my power. The ultimate ethical responsibility.
When Goddess put me thru ego-death some years ago, a spinter of fear
remained after, and it haunted me for over a year before I traced it back
to that "Good intentioned" (road to Hell) invocation I had done to myself,
as a child... and what remained of it, was a persistent duality: fear of
harm had become a prison around my soul, anchoring me so I could not ascend
above it. After ego death, my good intentions became my personal Hell.
Ritual marriage to Hades/Death, set me free.
Harm as a perception only exists in the lower chakras.. and the higher
chakra perceptions cannot be defined, in words. They must be expreienced,
to be understood. So, what is the point of debating your thesis? What is
the sound of one hand clapping?
So long as you are convinced that the splinter of you that uses fear
of harm as a reason to judge and play Hero is of value, you are not going
to surrender it.. and you are the only one who can make the choice to do so.
My ethical responsibility belongs to Goddess...
I spent many years offering pain and humiliation professionally..
dealing with people who cherish a bruise as evidence that someone paid
attention to them. Evidence that they are loved.
Some cried victim because I did not bruise them, as much as they wanted
me to. Others, because the bruises I gave were not the kind of bruises they
were hoping for....
None of them considering, that my agreeing to play the "villain" role
made me far more vulnerable than they ever were.
In one of the lessons of my course I warn of "The Trap of
righteousness".. Observing the hazard of using judgments of "what other
people need" as a motive for "Heroic" action. That attutide is what creates
the most heinous repressions, from the Drug war to the Spanish Inquisition.
"What other people need".. looks like martyrdom, smells like prison. It is
the ugliest of emotional projections, because it tramples those it tries to
"help" by projecting weakness onto them.
There are no "other people".. all that see, is yourself reflected.
>This would be the point we could talk about and think about. Reducing it
to backing up poor Percyval and attacking me personally turns it into a
kindergarden game....just my personal opinion...... as always
>mia
Oh, Mia, how tall is that white horse you sit on, up so high above us?
Does it feel good to look down on "poor percyval" and our little
kindergarden games? Tell me, how is the view from up there?
Isn't it a good thing we have you tending the kindergarden so us kiddies
won't keep fighting. Mom always said, "It's all fun and games, till
somebody loses an I." ; )
Blessings..
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