To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/06/13 12:33
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: cancer and prognosis ( Angelique)
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2000/06/13 12:33, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
At 09:39 AM 6/13/00 -0400, meeradji wrote:
><<Everything is happening as it
>should.
> Any how, Paul did not ask for sympathy, and David's response respected
>that. What need caused you to decide to be his champion?
> Blessings.. >>
>
>I'm sure Paul and everybody else on the lists knows very well that
everything is happening as it should
Then why do you judge David? He is a part of everything.
>and Paul not asking for sympathy doesn't mean he wouldn't like - and need-
all love and support he can get.
I felt the love in David's post.. who are you to decide what form it
should take?
> And i'm not anybody's champion, but just wondering about the discrepency
between theory and practice here.
I see no discrepancy.
>How far away from the love connection in your heart somebody has to be to
answer Paul's mail which was so full of sorrow, pain and love with some
links and some scientific results?
In my experience, that is how men communicate love to each other.
They respect each other's dignity and offer help in the forms it is asked
for.
> I know i'm judging here and perhaps i'm wrong and my interpretation is
too emotional .....
The emotions are your own.. why did *you* respond that way?
>Words are powerful, words are weapons, words are eternal energies. These
mails are read by several hundred people and for many of them we, the
writers, are giving an example and an orientation.
Now you are the one putting on a teacher hat when it is not asked for.
Have you been taking lessons from Ben..: ) People will respond as they
choose to respond, and will interpret things as they choose to interpret
them. I haven't been a Dominatrix for so many years whithout learning
precisely the limits to how much I can control or effect another human
being... not at all, unless they allow it. Free Will is Goddess' law..
> I just couldn't let this kind of energy stand there uncommented. David's
words felt cynical to me and heartless. I know, David is NOT cynical and
heartless, but the energy in his mail in my eyes was.
Well, if you know that about David then why did you choose not to see
the love that was there?
>Perhaps it's just my stupid " feeling everybody's pain attitude" , this
stupid human compassion, that makes me cry and play flute for Paul and
other silly things that probably don't help him anyway and only feed my
nice ego image of having a big heart and being full of love.....?
Is that what it's about? Your wanting to *appear* compassionate by
being Paul's champion?
>perhaps..... but even if.......
>i don't have a choice anyway.
>it's my belief: even IF we "know" what somebody has to learn and " know"
that everything nasty and cruel and painful happens to his or her personal
best, and even when we are sure, it comes out of God's deepest love even if
it looks and feels like hell..............
>even then as human beings with a heart full of love it should be the need
of our compassionate heart to try to heal, to try to comfort, to try to
make better.
That is exactly what David did..
>How else do we manifest Divine love in a human way?
:) How else.. ?? Why should your way be the only way? Why do we need
to manifest Divine love in a human way? Do you judge Divine love as being
inferior to human expressions? Needing to be shaped into a human form to be
acessable? That is a very limiting belief..
>And yes, i know, there are other ways of sending love than writing mails
to the list, but we shouldn't forget that the list lives from energies
manifested in words mainly.
:) No, it doesn't... not to the sensitive.. the words are only the
carrier for the Shakti-fire. The list group mind exists even when the
quantity of mail drops off as it does periodically..
>So perhaps the words SHOULD actually represent what we are and do.
>In my opinion Paul doesn't need diagnosis, links and statistics right now
but love.
Right now he needs information. His Doctor wants to operate right
away, and he has some decisions to make about that.. he needs to be well
informed and he *said* that he didn't want sympathy... and he certainly
doesn't want anybody feeling sorry for him. Feeling sorry for somebody can
rob them oif thier dignity, it creates a hierarchy of better off and lesser
off.
You are acting for yourself. What made you think there was not love
in David's words?
>Love is everything, love heals, love soothes, love comforts, love
survives......
>On this list we talk so much about love......
>Where is your love,David?
>Where is your love, Angelique?
What a stupid question, Mia.. Do you think I am not loving just
because I didn't flame David like you did or express sympathy that he said
he doesn't want, as you did?? I started sending love to Paul as soon as I
read of his post, as I always do when I read of hurts on the list.. this is
natural for me and I thought it not worth mentioning, till you asked.
If Paul feels it, then he will know. If he does not feel it then where
would be the point of my telling him of what he does not experience? For
the sake of my own ego? That is silly.. especially since when I tuned into
his vibe I got a clear message that all is as it should be.. which he
already knows, in his heart. He is safe in Goddess arms, and really needs
nothing from me.
>Where is OUR love?
>mia
Where is your love for David?
Blessings..
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