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Recieved: 2000/06/02 03:01
Subject: [K-list] To visualise or not...was Re: Poll suggestion was Re:
From: John Rushworth
On 2000/06/02 03:01, John Rushworth posted thus to the K-list:
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
> I visualize, and I always have, so far as I can tell.. I remember
>pictures in my mind, in Grade 1 in response to questions like "What do you
>want to do when you grow up?"
> I was an ADD daydreamer,
Wonderful...that is a feeling for me...looking out of the window at school
and doing something valuable like imagining riding my motorcycle or winning
a competition...the difference was I would feel it and see no pictures.
Goodness knows why folk call it ADD? Surely one is paying attention to what
matters most to the individual and maybe your bird or my motorcycle was far
more important than domestic science for beginners....Hmmmm...I see no
attention deficit here...only a teacher with control issues. I'm delighted
you had the courage to ADD (sic).
>and that's what my
>daydreams were, movies in my head. I was also a talented artist from a very
>early age.. I was the only one in grade 2 who could draw a bird that looked
>like a bird with feet and a beak and wings, and not a flying m. I imagined
>a bird and drew it.
Interesting the use of words. This is the crux of the suggested poll.
Because you have always visualised, as in the bird in your imagination --
you refer to your process as "imagine" which is the subtle diffrence I'm
refferring to. Maybe because you do it differently to say me, then you
interchange the words visualise and imagine. Had we both known or had the
educators understood the difference....then surely we'd have understood
better, when young, our differences and what a thought.....maybe you could
have taught me to see pictures in your way. Maybe you'd have been
fascinated by the other percentage that had a different process?
> I know some folks are not visual, NLP names several processing
>modalities, like audio and kinesthetic.. I can imagine in those modalities,
>too but mostly it's visual.
Hmmm....I remember that NLP book in the mid eighties "Frogs into Princes",
and it showed that when folk access visually their eye movement may be
different to my kinesthetic way. I'don't recall if it differs with past,
present or future yet as you say, folk may have a primry modality yet maybe
they switch subject to the context.
> What about dreams, John? How do you dream, if it's not visual?
Apart from the Lucid dream I reffered to, which was me being asleep but
awake in the dream and taking control of the dream in full colour and
sound.....most of my dream recolletion is a thought, however a flying dream
is a feeling or I may become aware of say a body movement or tension.
Mostly Kinesthtic dream then but certainly there are pictures there. For me
it's accesing them. I've managed on the odd occaison and induced an OOBE
too. Way fun...
John R.
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