To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/05/24 07:15
Subject: Re: [K-list] ego - Judgement - orientation - Mind control.
From: Melissa P
On 2000/05/24 07:15, Melissa P posted thus to the K-list:
ben wrote:
>The above orientation towards what has been said is totally irrelevant.
>What
>has been said in this post is not part of anything that was sent with the
>previous post. The response above has nothing with the previous post. 'we
>and you.' What is happening? Why is it happening? Is something
>stuck.......is something stuck in the - we, you. Can orientation move out
>of
>that this with EVERYTHING that has been said so far?
>
> "when in Rome", Ben. The list community is not going to change to
>please you, it would be a lot more effective for you to adjust yourself to
>the list environment. It ain't broke, it doesn't need "fixing".
ben wrote:
>Nothing to do with the previous post. All resolved before. All resolved
>again.
melissa ga here. ben, it does TO have to do with the previous post.
obviously, you are an intelligent person, yet you are being thick as a board
when it comes to what Angelique is saying to you...and she speaks for me and
others i'm sure. I simply let her handle matters such as this because she is
the most adept AND she is list mystress
i don't even post often to this list..i mostly lurk and enjoy the
conversations - i speak now becoz i don'tknow if YOU have noticed the
deafening silence on this list lately, but i sure have...
yet finally i MUST just voice my thoughts about this...
How easy it must be for you to sidestep responsbility for what you write
with the "all resolved before, all resolved again," rinse, repeat,
approach...
while you continue your bull-in-a-china-shop approach to this list.
>
> Yes, I already know that telepathy is empathy, Duh!!! I don't need
>you to tell me that.. and if you had a shred of empathy, yourself, you
>would know that I know it, and that we all know it, and you would be able
>to feel how much of an irritant it is, to have you trying to "teach"
>everyone what we already know from personal experience.
>
>Again the schizoid break - you, we. What is happening? Judgment?
>premeditated? Mind control?
haa...i know you continue to insiste we are all one, there is not"you" "we"
but you twist it to your own convenient usage...YOU write posts that WE
read. I read them because I am interested in what others have
to share. see..i think maye it is your *presentation" ..you TELL the list
things..as opposed to sharing things. even the most elequent K scholars on
the list don't "preach" to us OR try to teach us with parlor tricks, smoke
and mirrors...
>
> How about if you activate your own empathy so that you can grok the
>list instead of preaching to it? You are not showing your knowledge, you
>are showing your insensitivity. If you cannot access empathy yourself, then
>why don't you shut up until you can learn how.
>
>'Teaching/preaching'......another form of how dare you explain yourself to
>anyone without going through ME first. Me, we - (pause) . This, I -
>(pause).
ha..no no...that isn't the way Angelique works...and if you would stop
braying like a Mule for a moment and LISTEN you might get it.
>
>
> To an empath like myself, your pronouncements are as painful as
>fingernails on a chalkboard. Your projecting that I am too unevolved to
>understand such basic concepts is more than annoying, and if it continues I
>am likely to want to hand them back to you even more harshly than I did
>last week.
>
>Orientation 101 - back to basics. Start all over again.
ben, dear..are you in a continuous loop? blunder, start over, blunder, start
over...it's a cop-out....and it really only works one time.
>
> Apparently, I did not make myself clear, last week: Your projections of
>our stupidity are unwelcome, and to an empath they are as painful as a
>slap. Violent, disrespectful and not consensual.
> I am not a submissive personality, I don't surrender to anyone but
>Goddess within myself, and if you continue to try to take the Dominant
>role of "teaching" me, trying to be Goddess for me, I will cheerfully kick
>your ass into next week.. even more harshly than I did, last week..
>
>
>Orientation - The schizoid break of :: judgment>This,I. You/me is at
>critical mass here. The plexi (plexus) or chakras (after the Sanskrit), are
>the final viable assertion of the states and functions of matter, all else
>being poppycock and delusion including the above statement.........(pause)
hello? earth to ben? i don't even know what this means..does anyone else
really? ben, honey, you are in over your head, and frankly...
either you'll sink or swim. throwing sanskrit terms wildly about...you
actually are kind of pathetically amusing in your manipulation of the
terminology...yet your usage displays little real comprehension...
however, insulting Angelique by insinuating she is schizoid and delusional
is a sad display of unacceptable manners and disrespect.
i won't stand for it.
>
> What's more, I am an openly sadistic personality and I will enjoy
>doing
>it, as a gift of love just for you. :) :) Don't tempt me.
> You remind me of the kind of maschocistic personality we BDSM people
>call a SAM.. smart ass maschocist.. that is the kind of person who tries to
>provoke a Dominant into giving them the torture that they crave. Normally,
>I respond to such personalities by ignoring them, or binding and gagging
>them. I cannot ignore you, because I am list Mystress. I can gag you... :)
>:) :) but hopefully you will pull your head out of your ass, so I won't
>need to.
> Blessings!!
>
> The maschocist says "please whip me!"
> The sadist says "No!"
>
>
>(pause)............and this one too (read into it).
ben, ben. tsk. you've trampled the hell out of the daisies. i'm growing
tired of it. certainly others must be too. please, either be quiet and watch
for a while, or leave us in peace. i KNOW this is a loving list, but
personally, i came to discover K and this list and my own spirituality to
get AWAY from preachy blowhards like yourself.
i speak only for myself in this email, but i've had enough of your faux
msyterious wanna-be guru bullshite.
peace out...
melissa ga
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