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Recieved: 2000/05/24 03:32
Subject: [K-list] ego - Judgement - orientation - Mind control.
From: Ben Holland


On 2000/05/24 03:32, Ben Holland posted thus to the K-list:

Orgone is aether.

>
> Ben.
It has a hundred names. You can call it aether if you want to, I prefer
>to call it prana, and I'm going to continue to call it prana. That is what
>we call it on this list, prana or chi, and we have agreed in that term, to
>avoid confusion.

> You keep insisting we call chakras psychological, too.. but we have
>previously referred to them as part of the energy body, (etheric body,
>whatever!) and that's how it is. Your expectation that the list should
>alter it's preferred terminology to please you is absurd. We need to agree
>on some terms, to communicate... and we have discussed them and agreed on
>them, long before you showed up trying to re-invent the wheel.

The above orientation towards what has been said is totally irrelevant. What
has been said in this post is not part of anything that was sent with the
previous post. The response above has nothing with the previous post. 'we
and you.' What is happening? Why is it happening? Is something
stuck.......is something stuck in the - we, you. Can orientation move out of
that this with EVERYTHING that has been said so far?

 "when in Rome", Ben. The list community is not going to change to
please you, it would be a lot more effective for you to adjust yourself to
the list environment. It ain't broke, it doesn't need "fixing".

Nothing to do with the previous post. All resolved before. All resolved
again.

 Yes, I already know that telepathy is empathy, Duh!!! I don't need
you to tell me that.. and if you had a shred of empathy, yourself, you
would know that I know it, and that we all know it, and you would be able
to feel how much of an irritant it is, to have you trying to "teach"
everyone what we already know from personal experience.

Again the schizoid break - you, we. What is happening? Judgment?
premeditated? Mind control?

How about if you activate your own empathy so that you can grok the
list instead of preaching to it? You are not showing your knowledge, you
are showing your insensitivity. If you cannot access empathy yourself, then
why don't you shut up until you can learn how.

'Teaching/preaching'......another form of how dare you explain yourself to
anyone without going through ME first. Me, we - (pause) . This, I - (pause).

To an empath like myself, your pronouncements are as painful as
fingernails on a chalkboard. Your projecting that I am too unevolved to
understand such basic concepts is more than annoying, and if it continues I
am likely to want to hand them back to you even more harshly than I did
last week.

Orientation 101 - back to basics. Start all over again.

  Apparently, I did not make myself clear, last week: Your projections of
our stupidity are unwelcome, and to an empath they are as painful as a
slap. Violent, disrespectful and not consensual.
I am not a submissive personality, I don't surrender to anyone but
Goddess within myself, and if you continue to try to take the Dominant
role of "teaching" me, trying to be Goddess for me, I will cheerfully kick
your ass into next week.. even more harshly than I did, last week..

Orientation - The schizoid break of :: judgment>This,I. You/me is at
critical mass here. The plexi (plexus) or chakras (after the Sanskrit), are
the final viable assertion of the states and functions of matter, all else
being poppycock and delusion including the above statement.........(pause)

What's more, I am an openly sadistic personality and I will enjoy doing
it, as a gift of love just for you. :) :) Don't tempt me.
   You remind me of the kind of maschocistic personality we BDSM people
call a SAM.. smart ass maschocist.. that is the kind of person who tries to
provoke a Dominant into giving them the torture that they crave. Normally,
I respond to such personalities by ignoring them, or binding and gagging
them. I cannot ignore you, because I am list Mystress. I can gag you... :)
:) :) but hopefully you will pull your head out of your ass, so I won't
need to.
Blessings!!

  The maschocist says "please whip me!"
   The sadist says "No!"

(pause)............and this one too (read into it).

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