To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/05/22 14:04
Subject: Re: [K-list] Ego
From: Mrstoast
On 2000/05/22 14:04, Mrstoast posted thus to the K-list:
Mystress wrote:
<<<At 12:54 PM 5/22/00 -0400, mrstoastATnospama... wrote:
>
>Am I quibbling semantics? Are folks saying Ego and meaning Fear-based
>behaviors?
>Melissa
Yes.
I separate the concept of ego=accumulated karma and fear based
beliefs, from the concept of consciousness.. the conscious mind...
When ego is cleared, the Karma-separation from knowing your own
Divinity that is the Veil of Forgetfullness also clears, and you are aware
of yourself as "spirit having a human experience". Fearless. >>>
OK. I see your point of the difference in karmic plaque as a by-product of
fear-based living as being different than consciousness. Could it be ego is
a mind-structure that karma-plaque hangs to like crud inside a pipe? Then,
still, is the remedy to tear down the house when you only needed to let
God/dess rework the plumbing to better suit?
<<< When ego dies, it is reborn as a tool/lens for infinite Goddess
manifesting in linearity.. so you can still function in the world of
space-time. Part of the difference is the process of "thinking about" is
replaced by a Zen-silent mind that acts without thinking.. Goddess does the
thinking, and the body is a vessel of that Will. >>>
I think is is what I was getting in terms of Ego and expansion, that as Ego
rides the bubble outwards it becomes more, while retaining it's essence:
awareness. On the compression beat, it brings back the expanded awarenesses
for digestion.
<<< However, the process of mindfullness remains. Once your personal Karma
is cleared, if you remain on the planet the Bohhdhisattva effect kicks in.
The empathy remains, and you start picking up on the thoughts, fears and
limiting beliefs of those around you. >>>
Sidetrack: is the purpose of living really to clear all one's karma? To live
in that "ascended" state? I know I'm doing the reason v. intuition thing
again today, so bear w/me! ;)
<< You can grow a new ego out of the patchwork pieces if you let them
stick... but having memories of how you found your way out, last time,
makes it easier to re-enlighten yourself. Unlike a baby, who forgets what
it was like to be egoless, in the survival process of culturalization, the
adult notices that something is not right, and remembers that there is
another option. >>
Are babies perceived as ego-less merely because they can not express
themselves in a manner we look for? Or because all the neuro-wiring is still
in hyper-progress?
<< Karmic clutter can shut down the faculties of higher wisdom, if enough
of it builds up, and then you forget how to do what you did, to get to
where you were.. >>
Most heartily agreed!
Still, I wonder. Who decided Ego was a bad thing to have? Ego is also the
vehicle that carries and filters the incoming, gives our Free Will an avenue
of expression. No ego and we'd be flaked out under a tree with stupid grins
as our body starves or not. Too much ego and we're mired in material
structures, lost in a world of media appetites, dying "noble" deaths.
OK. Time to be Mommy.
Melissa
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