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Recieved: 2000/05/18 15:56
Subject: Re: [K-list] P.S....:-)
From: Ben Holland
On 2000/05/18 15:56, Ben Holland posted thus to the K-list:
I have absolutly no idea what the answer to my question was. If I did,
why would I even bother my time asking it. This again is yet another
situation, of a highly convoluted and complex threads, of presumptions,
misunderstandings, errors of judgements, knots. It seems nearly going
towards out of control proportions.
Having speant time looking through the archieves of this site I was
hoping to find people who may actually be nice. I have no idea
why the personal attacks persist or a reason why. If I was to say
something very nasty or to say something very rude or simply
plainly hateful, then I would understand such givings. If I was to send
each of you hate mail and then to post misinformation on the web
about you, then yes I could understand such givings. I have tried to
be nice, as I always have. I am not in anyway trying to capture people
and bite their head of in some form of absolutly useless and mundane
approach to the 'I know more than you do...nah...nah...nah.....nah.
.nah ...nah..' This is completly useless to me and to anyone else. I can not
do anything with that kind of conversation. No one can do anything with that
kind of conversation. That kind of conversation has nothing to do with
anything
that I have been saying at all. Nothing. Not a single thing. I cam nowhere
near
that. I am also failing to see how other people are seeing this. I have
shown the
posts to more the SIX people at this stage, to give me subjective responces
as
to how or why these presumptions are being made. The results are the same.
On the other groups what I say in responces to e-mails does not get
missunderstood.
I ask questions to stimulate a responce that I can find refreshing to use.
Some people have said - Ben, this is a group that discuss experiances
and nothing else. Can I please say, that this is what I have been doing.
I am sure that these people have some of the posts.
>If you want to start your own cult, I'd say, go for it. Obviously the
humour
of the post I sent out was not seen to be humour at all. Why does anyone
even bother to give information out here....why bother when it is turned on
the
person. I have given out several private pieces of information about myself
that
we used against me in a form of attack. What is going on if one can not
state
personal things in a KUNDALINI group of all given places......
>Start with
creating your own mailing list "Ben's_quizzes_and_theoriesATnospamegroups.com..
then the people who are interested in lectures and quizzes can seek you
out, and you can stop trying to "teach" people who haven't invited you to
be their Guru.
When the hell did I ever even start to do this?>?>?>
What is the problem here? Seems that I might have to actually use twelve or
more different ways of saying the same thing before I discover which
each person likes themselves. Maybe it is time to get formal. (I am laughing
at this stage.)
.
>> List guideline : Respect for other paths. Trying to convert and teach
without consent is not respectful. It is a side effect of "righteousness"
which is a power chakra issue.
>> It's not unusual, pretty common early in awakening, but it can lead to
the kind of psychosis that makes a David Koresh. The simularity, is that he
was as passionately righteous about his interpretations of the Bible, as
you are of your interpretations of the science of mysticism. So sure he was
right, and out to covert everybody to his "superior" way of thinking... or
die trying. Go ahead, start your own cult..
>>My lord God, who is comparing me to this man with only about fifteen
of my own posts been sent out. This kind of judgement is not game. What
made you say the above? It is amazing how three misunderstood posts could
lead to this. Just like a media eating frenzy.
>> A few folks have explained to you, that the phase of analysis that you
are in, is one that passes. Your theories cannot hold the Infinite, words
are limited things. The logical mind that analyses is the weakest aspect of
intelligence. The phase you are in is common enough, particlarly the
"righteousness"
that goes with it, thinking that you know it all... but don't try to cling
to it, because it will pass.
The whole point of a conversation is that things change. Having said that
I did say that I was intrested in Free energy devices and how they could be
manufactured FOR GOOD using our own personal experiances with
KUNDALINI awaking, that had a number of years ago practising
pranayama. I would like to talk more about that so that engineering may
take place. One person responded to that post and gave me some steady
solid information for building something of this nature. This will not pass,
but
will better what is around.
.
>> What Wim and a few others have tried to explain to you, is that you
are
going thru a power chakra opening. Yellow gold, solar plexus. The mental
level where Will is the power and thinking is the path. Where power games
are the rule of the day, and status issues are your instinctive behavior.
Have I ever said anything other than Transendence over the Transistory.??
If for one moment anyone thinks that I am talking about Karma based
triffles, then I have failed - really really badly, to even so much as
flicker
anything across that could help me to do the above.
.
>> Anyhow, most likely your box of beliefs won't allow you to grok my
meaning, and you are so certain of your righteousness, that I doubt you are
listening, anyhow. Just be respectful of the list guidelines, OK? This
cyberspace is not your personal soapbox, nor are we your students.
Blessings..
It is beyond me how one arrived at a conclution that I can not use. I looked
at
your post on the chakras. Maybe If you had sent them on their tod, without
the above, I may have been able to parse them with a lighter heart and
open mind. Right now, I am feeling stuffed with your emotional battering
and I will have to relax for awhile before editing your post and reading the
important stuff. Which is very important by the way.
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