To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/05/13 22:49
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re:ego
From: Yahseyes
On 2000/05/13 22:49, Yahseyes posted thus to the K-list:
In a message dated 5/13/00 5:48:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
winterATnospamprimeline.com writes:
<< All must be subjectified so that all points collapse into one point. >>
However, I think this is why we abstract ourselves to believe we are other
than the elements we really are and this to me is a problem of major
proportions. so that it becomes ok to put another group of sympathetic atoms
we call by a name to death in an abstraction called government for things we
think are ok to judge because of made up words like treason or the opinion of
a jury of our peers.
I am not sure what a peer is let alone twelve of them. I am only me. Its a
subjective creation of our minds. So that we think of being a part of a
land and having ownership to it because it was given an abstracted name when
the land cannot be owned, I am not sure what "owning" means, and in reality,
government is a lot of papers and agreements people agree to abide by but it
is all an hypnotic trip into an abstraction. How can I be of one country when
borders change and I am of the family of all things which knows of no borders
- yet another abstraction like the word "mind".
My point is, is that I have been having REAL problems with this creation
aspect of new identities we seem to make and worship and the behaviour it
leads to.
I once debated someone on numbers, on how amazing it was to me to have a
concept like one plus one equals two and then actually make decisions of
reality based on this imaginative abstraction. The "one" plus "one" is still
the "one" plus "one", we created this new thing called a two in our minds,
taking away some of the inherent rights of existence of the previous "one"
and the previous other "one". We then give this new creation call a "two"
these powers of existence when it really does not exist at all. We created
its existence. come to think of it, we created the existence of the "one"
also only in letters and alphabet and then convinced ourselves it was really
there.
Does any this make sense? I spend my time trying to see the original "ones"
and get out of the god creativity game of making "two's" and "three's" etc. I
am trying to see the atoms and elements.
Lou
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