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Recieved: 2000/05/09 23:58
Subject: [K-list] Re: Spirit Memories
From: Wim Borsboom
On 2000/05/09 23:58, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Lou
You wrote:
> Its all about order, order is the mind, the reality, and matter is in the
> order, and there are many orders within orders and many paths,
>
> All of this is the memory,
I may use the same words that you use with slightly different meanings so I
am taking good care to see if I can get YOUR meaning of YOUR words.
So yes yes, I love what you say.
Order has to do with internal and external relationships. Relationships...
mutually proportioned bonds and strengths. Proportions...therefore ratios,
rational numbers express those relationships. Ah, those old Pythagoreans saw
the lot!!!! Ratio is the Latin word for mind!!! Neat eh? When there are no
disharmonious disturbances as created by a faulty mind (a faulty mind
applies ratio(s) and proportions disproportionately) order is by definition
unconditional. One could say mind (ratio) is a *sense* with which we measure
and observe that order. Memory is the record keeping part of that rational
mind. Memory is therefore also unconditional when it is not selective.
> The body is of a gravity and is of the earth, part of the earth
Yeah, yeah... I like the fact that you include gravity... our proportional
relatedness to our good earth.
> The memory of the body is the brain
Yes, the brain, partially the record keeping part of the mind
> We travel as spirit, body travel as we know it in airplanes is by internal
> combustion which is stupid and mimics bird flight, but birds are of the
> earth, air is of the earth -- the stars are not of the earth, the stars of
> fire, I think. (is this an ah ha?)
You bet it is an Aha!!
I travel in the spirit a lot, a heck of a lot, also I travel into
'time-a-coming'.
I know what is going to happen to our good earth and ... do not worry... we
will develop proportionately with the earth, with concomitant graces and
powers... as the earth is going through it's paces, especially when the sun
becomes a red dwarf... that is going to be so beautiful... I had to get used
to the way the earth looked though... but in retrospect the good earth
remains beautiful... and we remain beautiful... in an odd sort of way.
> Travel can individually occur to the stars by the spirit not anchored down
by
> the gravity of the body as long as there is harmony in the order of the
> spirit mechanisms which are intent, will, love. But I remember nothing -
or
> so I've convinced myself - at the brain level because the brain is of the
> body and the body can't do spirit travel.
The brain can translate the transmissions from the mind (an advanced sense
organ) into bodily, down to earth images according to our other five senses.
The brain will register impressions from the travelling mind/spirit (not too
well delineated, but... oh well)
> So, Eck, the dream master, is the key to travel.
> and Eck, is the answer? to remembering the dreams??
Years ago, I knew something about Eck... now I just am :-)
> BIG QUESTION FOR ME:: If I relate to the body in my desire to remember -
to
> travel to the stars, how do I take a spirit experience - its memory in the
> spirit experience - and map it to the body memory, so that the travel is
3d
> real to the me that is typing this now and I can remember it in the body
and
> do it again and continue where I left off?
Of course the concrete can be represented by rational and proportional
symbols (mathematical mostly) AND the concrete is a condensation (in various
rates of compaction) of that rational symbology (numbers) through the
creation and application of time/space.
Follow me...
At one point, about two months ago, I experienced the world only-and-totally
as mathematical equations... then I slowed down a wee bit and those
equations translated into amyriad of vibrational frequencies. Then I slowed
down some more and the most beautiful arrangement of colours appeared (3
dimensional mandelbrots very subtly coloured in) Then I slowed down some
more... ... ...
Well you know, when the rays of the sun hit a prism, the glass medium and
its warping characteristics slow pure solar energy down from the speed of
light to lower frequencies which we then may see as colours... Imagine when
that energy REALLY slows down as it once did a long time ago (and still does
now), the solar rays hit the refracting consistency of saline waters and
crystalline rock. That energy now becomes creative *stuff*, gradually it
takes on the consistency of something jelly-like. Yes, why not something
like... jelly fish. (Same stuff that our cerebrospinal fluid consists of.)
That gelatinous stuff then accretes calcium molecules which form some
skeletal arrangement and so on and so on...Eventually you appear, a very
slowed down version of some primordial unconditional energy... creating time
and space and more stuff to validate your existence by... BUT... now finding
ways to reverse the process, becoming timeless and spaceless energy, the
stuff of dreams and angels and spirit...
> Is this another description for dreaming?
There is no way of knowing whether this is a dream or not, whether this is
life or after life... Well of course it could be a mixture? Come to think of
it... it IS a mixture, Aha!!!
Hehehe, but we knew that already :-)
Love,
Wim
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