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Recieved: 2000/05/08 13:41
Subject: Re: [K-list] Digest Number 130
From: Mrstoast
On 2000/05/08 13:41, Mrstoast posted thus to the K-list:
Hillary wrote:
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Hmmm. Why would I want to shuck off my ego? I'm might be better served
trying to blink my eyes independently at all times . . . Who decided that
Ego is a bad thing? Why? And what does it matter what they think?
El wrote:
<<And the reason for astronomical suicide rate is? Ancestor-ghosts with an
attitude problem? So by shipping the cranky ancestors to that far away
Cosmic Reservation, all their earthly progeny are saved! And then they can
trade their obsolete traditions for better modern stuff (like New Age
Paganism) and make a killing in the casinos and live long self-absorbed lives
like socially privileged Euro-white folks?>>
First, let me say how passionately and eloquently you present your feelings,
backed with quotes "from the source." Then I'll say how your perception of
Mystress' post being one of afterlife banishment to the detriment of the
living generations might be a tad knee-jerk.
Once upon a time, we owed a house in Kentucky that we were trying to sell.
We knew the house was "inhabited" as well as the land around it, by
disincarnated folk. Felt all the world like Native Americans to me, but I'm
not an expert, whatever that is. I based my "feelings" on "seeing" what
looked to me like a Native American encampment down by the stream from time
to time, and feeling a presence of many gentle but determined energies. It is
worth noting too that the house was w/in a mile of the Ohio River, and not
far from many very old Native sites (i.e., 10000 BP). After 2 years on the
market, I began seeking help from psychics, pagans, nuns, etc., as the real
estate agents were at a loss. The psychic saw Native American spirits
chasing off prospective buyers because (as she explained) the buyer's
wouldn't have honored the land. Indeed, we'd been "allowed" to move there
because we would (and did). Now, that's some of the subjective and hearsay
of this story, despite how I choose to believe it. Here are some of the
facts: two ceremonies were held to honor the presences, and to release them
from their earthbound confinement if that was for the greatest good. The
first ceremony involved many people, except me as I was in another state and
didn't find out about it til after the fact. Shortly afterwards, prospective
buyer's began coming out of the woodwork, but still no offers were made on
paper. So, one day, I decided to do a meditative visualization and visit the
house (being still in another state) and see what was going on, if I could.
(Slipping again into the subjective) I again saw the encampment, but now with
only one teepee. There was a fire circle with one older Native American man
sitting at it facing East from where I approached. The teepee was directly
behind him. I felt he was a leader or shaman in the community, that he'd
allowed the rest to go on ahead of him, but that he and I needed to connect
before he would. I became aware that this community had died very suddenly
and sadly - as though a quick disease had come through the village while most
the men were away either hunting or meeting, and that this was partially why
they had remained - to await the return of the rest of their village. For
whatever reason, they never returned. He and I did not speak, as we both
understood (as it seemed to me) that our languages met nowhere. Instead, we
communicated with intention and with somewhat watered down ceremony (he
allowed for my ignorance of his ways w/graciousness). In turn, I was very
mindful to be clear and loving in my intention that it would be a great gift
to me that the house be allowed to sell. When our "meeting" was done, we
stood and embraced, then he turned and walked off into the West. I watched
him go with many emotions. I put out the fire and turned back east,
returning to my body. Needless to say, I was most surprised and humbled with
my visualization. Back to the facts - w/in one week, we had an offer to buy
the house in writing. Within in a few weeks, the sale was closed and done.
Was it "right" of us to encourage our friends on their way? Free will
reigns. Was it disrespectful of us, non-Native Americans, to push our
"agenda" - to try and sell our house? I offer that it was a compromise
reached between two worlds for the greatest good of all concerned. It felt
very much to me like an honorable and peaceful, mutual meeting and agreement.
Now, that's my perception, or hallucination. Whatever. All I know is that
the house sold almost immediately thereafter.
FWIW,
Melissa
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