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Recieved: 2000/04/21 08:39
Subject: [K-list] Sama sam sam!
From: Tony O'Clery

On 2000/04/21 08:39, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:

Namaste All, Kathryin, Angelique et al,

A Chairde,

I'll say it again Sam, Sakti cannot be felt until the
day of 'Moksha'. Why? because one cannot experience
God without becoming God. Sakti is the Devi, or Saguna
Brahman. The original universal mind!

There is only prana and karma, energy and action. The
prana is what causes experiences, it takes many roles
including Kundalini.

The cleansing K prepares the inner sheaths of
consciousness, for eventual realisation. This depends
on how much cleansing needs to be done and how many
tendency samskaras are there from previous lives.

Cleansing oneself by not eating meat, drinking
alcohol, doing drugs, nicotine etc can alleviate this
process.

Without moving too much into the field of non-dualism,
all comes from within oneself not from a guru!!!!!
If the guru has become one with the universe, very
few, like Ramana or Jesus, then that is within
oneself. The inner guru pulls and the outer guru
pushes, so to speak but it is the same thing really.

All other energy is prana, all other so-called gurus
are really teachers, a true guru has to be realised.

Healing etc is energy or roles of prana.

A person who has a truly risen K has no experiences at
all, those well on the way have diminished K
experiences except for awareness and bliss, bliss can
be a trap also.

Om Namah Sivaya,Tony.


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http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/sanskritglos.htm

ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real,
THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,
MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.
OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.

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