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Recieved: 2000/03/28 10:45
Subject: Re: [K-list] Noises
From: Ville Vainio


On 2000/03/28 10:45, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:

From: Ville Vainio <vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi>

On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, Tyler Younger wrote:

> > > Why something similar would start kreeping on me now, Im not sure.
> But
> > >since then Ive adopted the Christian belief system and Now when
> > > I look back I somtimes think I was playing with fire.
> > Well, it sounds to me like you are awakened already, and there is no
> > going backwards. You cannot put the genie back in the bottle. You might
> > find Buddhism more compatable with this than Christianity, but follow your
> > gut.

Buddhism, and especially Zen. It doesn't play with K (at least explicitly)
but it's friendly for the brain (if not for the mind), and doesn't
necessitate any particular practice "for the sake of compatibility". All
kind of practice is no-no, in the initial stage.

> > > Sometime last week while trying to drift to sleep, At the point of
> near
> > >sleep, For a split second it felt as if my body was sliding off the bed
> > > at light speed, Sounds crazy I know.

No, it doesn't. Been there, done that, as well as (assumedly) most of the
others here. Near sleep, anything is possible, and scary things may
happen.

> > > in my head there was a growling noise like wind or a train. It felt
> like
> > >being in a gentle microwave, pulsating sensations were moving up and
> > > down, At first I just layed there it was interested then the fear set
> > >in, I tried to get away from it,

Stand up, have something to drink or eat.

> > You cannot get away from it. It is God.

Yes, you can. It's diazepam (accompanied by a wide, salesman's smile and
a catalog from Roche pharmaceuticals).

> > > It was almost like a massage. But in the same sentance from who? It
> felt
> > >like if I let it overcome me, which was likely to happen, I would
> > > go insane or not come back or whatever. If it happens again I want to
> > >know how to handle it better.

> > opened, and there is no closing it again. You can only go forward, and
> > trust in the process that you have started.

One additional piece of advise: no rush in going forward, you will be
pushed to that direction anyway. You won't go crazy, and time (accompanied
by the self-healing capabilities of your ex- and future friend, that Brain
(tm)) will make you feel all-right.

> > > Why now? I have to wonder. Right now is quite the opsite from any
> > >spirtual path for me. More like a bitter uphill struggle to survive.

That's what it's like. You might want to check out my k-website (intended
especially for people in the situation such as yours) at

http://window.to/kundalini

Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
 Wild geese have no intention to cast a reflection
 Water has no mind to assume their form


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