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Recieved: 2000/03/28 05:14
Subject: Re: [K-list] Some points on Osho and stuff.
From: Robert Weil

From: Robert Weil <Robert_WeilATnospamscientia.com>

At 23:24 27/03/00 EST, you wrote:
>From: KKonczykATnospamaol.com
>
>In a message dated 3/27/00 1:58:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>aocleryATnospamyahoo.com writes:
>
><< Also addictions and desires are just different
> intensities of the same tendency. An addiction is a
> strongly reinforced desire, through repeated
> indulgence, until the samskara/becomes deeply embedded
> in the sheaths or kosas. As does an instinct. Until
> the person may loath the desire but the samskaras rule
> and he is in a predicament. >>
>
>You are missing the point of addiction. It is not a strongly reinforced
>desire that becomes the addiction. It is the result of an act, reinforced or
>time, that becomes the addiction. I enjoy the way eating ice cream makes me
>feel. I eat it every night. Oops, I have an addiction. I am not addicted to
>eating the ice cream, I am addicted to the way eating ice cream makes me
>feel. I don't actually enjoy smoking. I do enjoy the rush and buzz that can
>come with it.

Hi Kim,

Yes, good point! :) I forgot this! Thanks for reminding me of what I used
to know! :) Mind if I take it further?
 
So I guess the desire is fed by the result, thus the desire is linked ever
stronger to the result. Whatever generates the feedback loop. And it
doesn't even have to make logical sense: look at phobias, or philias.

Similarly, aversion therapy is a covering over of the desire, not the
removal of it. Behaviourists found they didn't extinguish behaviours with
behavioural techniques, they generated new behaviours. All was a learning.
So perhaps we are better served to understand the learning mechanism and
the root of a desire, rather than condemn the actions?

Rob

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