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Recieved: 2000/03/27 14:54
Subject: Re: [K-list] Some answers on desires etc
From: tom skarda

From: "tom skarda" <peacedog_94ATnospamhotmail.com>

All concerned,
   It has been fun, but
   Please remove me from the mailing list.
   Thanks,
   Tom Skarda

>From: Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospamyahoo.com>
>To: Subject: [K-list] Some answers on desires etc
>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:12:48 -0800 (PST)
>
>Namaste All, Kathy.
>
>The Goddess is that Universal Consciousness within
>creation/illusion, the Devi, Saguna Brahman as opposed
>the Nirguna Brahman, or non-attributes.
>
>A Guru to me is someone who has eliminated illusion
>and in in union with the absolute. A Jivanmutkta.
>Others who are not so realised are 'teachers', and
>liable to human mistakes etc. The Inner Guru pulls and
>the Outer Guru pushes but in the end the Guru is God.
>
>Rising above desires may sound dualistic Kathy but we
>are in a dual situation. It is real whilst you are in
>it, said Sankara. With respect to 'desires', and I
>presume we are talking of binding desires not non
>binding like basic eating.
>
> Desire is what caused us to be in the situation we
>are in, according to the Satgurus like Ramana, Jesus,
>Sankara, Buddha etc. Liberation is reversing the
>process of the descent of consciousness, rising up the
>K. Attachment to desires causes bondage and
>impressions or tendencies/samskaras. So witnessing,
>surrendering and not being attached or averted to
>one's desire allows one to purify the intellect and
>aids toward Liberation.
>
>There needs to be a unity of thought, word and deed.
>This is where the fraud gurus fall down, they don't
>carry through for whatever reason. They don't correct
>the course so to speak. A Guru who has an ego is not a
>Guru.
>
>Just my assessment!
>
>Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.
>
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>THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,
>MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.
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