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 To: K-listRecieved: 2000/03/25  02:17
 Subject: [K-list] Blame Canada
 From: Danijel Turina
 On 2000/03/25  02:17, Danijel Turina posted thus to the K-list:
 
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamiskon.hr>
 
At 17:13 2000.03.24 PST, you wrote:>From: "Marion Hanvey" <loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com>
 >lessons? I do.  I spend quite a bit of time with spiritualists, in the
 >absence of many yogis here in Manchester, and they get on my nerves, saying
 >we're here for the development of the soul, and if life was easy we wouldn't
 >learn.  I feel like kicking their heads in, there's nothing to develop and
 >nothing to learn.
 
They sound like wise folks, I'd like to chat with them; we share the sameperspective of things. It's like the gym - the good workout makes you swet
 and your muscles hurt like hell, but you _do_ improve the state of your
 body; if you don't exaggerate. People have a great unwillingness to change,
 inertia is one of the greatest forces of nature - tamas. If people are not
 confronted with situations in order to see the limitations of their
 perspective, the qualitative change of human nature would not be possible.
 Those confrontations don't have to be unpleasant, sometimes one can learn a
 great deal through love and gentleness. However, I know for a fact that
 this is not an omnipotent method. When you let people just feel loved and
 OK, they become inert, they don't grow, and they have a tendency to
 manifest their latent crap, which creates need for the more dramatic
 situations.
 But "blame it on the victim" is bullshit, and also "we create our own
 reality". Those things have to be properly understood, or else you get
 situations like justification of rapes in Sai Baba's asram, or murders and
 child molestations in ISKCON - "it was all their karma". Maybe so, but
 certainly not in the sense meant by those who make such statements; their
 karma could be the awakening from the illusion of the cult that they found
 themselves in, and not the punishment for some past crime. Karma is not
 about "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth"; if that was so, everybody would
 be walking around blind and with no teeth in their heads.
 When someone doesn't want to awaken, you first whisper "wake up". Then you
 shake him. Then you speak loudly. Then you yell. Then you kick his ass with
 an army boot. And when all that doesn't work, you pour cold water over him.
 God is not stupid, he never uses excessive force, and my experience is that
 people always get _just enough_ to be pushed in the direction that they
 need. Karma is an excellent tool, and I really admire its creator for it.
 
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