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Recieved: 2000/03/24 05:31
Subject: Re: [K-list] Just wondering/laughter
From: Ville Vainio
On 2000/03/24 05:31, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:
From: Ville Vainio <vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi>
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 druoutATnospamaol.com wrote:
> Margaret Laski in *Ecstasy* wrote an odd passage. "Ecstatics find delight in
> proportion and harmony, not humour in what is awry. Nothing humorous is ever
> a trigger to ecstasy. In ecstasy there is no fun whatsover." I guess I'd
> disagree :))
I, on the other hand, agree with Margaret, at least when it comes to the
way I understand "ecstasy". When ectasy is is "pure", there is no real
place for humour, because humour requires some kind of contradiction
somewhere, and in an ecstatic state there are no contradictions (any more
than measurements/values).
However, ecstasy can come as a "result" of laughing at the cosmic joke...
somewhere within the laughter, something happens and whoomph, there you
go.
> In her chapter on Mescalin and Ecstasy, though, she quotes Huxley after
> seeing a large blue car (shades of Osho! LOL) "Man has created the thing in
> his own image...I laughed till the tears ran down my cheeks."
Yeah, but Huxley was not in an ecstatic state at that point. Laughing at
something like that (or laughing at nothing in particular) is quite common
with psychedelics. And with k, also... I find myself laughing my ass off
at some very abstract, weird things that I assume no decent person in a
sober state would understand (or approve). It's not ecstatic, but rather
more like the behaviour of a maniac. Especially when I start to laugh at
some "unpleasant" things, such as famine or nazis (when I am supposed to
be "compassionate" or "condemning").
Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
Wild geese have no intention to cast a reflection
Water has no mind to assume their form
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