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Recieved: 2000/03/23 09:44
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Conny Larsson's Story on Sai Baba.
From: Gcwein1111


On 2000/03/23 09:44, Gcwein1111 posted thus to the K-list:

From: GCWein1111ATnospamaol.com

In a message dated 3/22/00 7:10:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, dturinaATnospamiskon.hr
writes:

<< I'm very glad to inform you that most of what you would consider to be
 facts, is possibly just some sort of an illusion.
 You took the criticism of Sai Baba as a fact; you took the critic's word
 for it. I have no reason to do so. Before I become inclined to feel
 compassion for the victim, I would love to have conclusive facts about who
 the victim is. It might very well be Sai Baba. It is not impossible that
 he's a homosexual pedophile, but on the other hand I've heard "reliable
 reports" that he had sex with thousands of women and that he has hundreds
 of children.
 Personally, I don't believe that he ever had sex with anyone. I also don't
 believe that he cheats with the materialization, at least not in the
 majority of cases. I suggest that, if one wants to discredit Sai Baba, it's
 best to stick to the results of his teachings, which are mostly
 disasterous. >>

Well, it's nice to see we agree on one thing, that his "teachings"
are "mostly disastrous". SO disastrous, l would argue, that the personal
scandals should hardly come as a surprise. By this l refer to the constant
promotion of himself as The Ultimate: God, Krishna, etc and his use of magic
to build an empire. l feel the evidence against SB was compelling. lf you
have truly reviewed everything and disagree, then l'm not going to try to
dissuade you. l think my desire is as great as anyone's not to get worked up
about this anymore -- the time for that has passed.

On the other hand, l'll admit that l continue to
be distressed by the fact that most of the gurus in eastern traditions that
have come to the west or have marketed themselves to westerners have fallen.
There are many who no doubt rejoice in this fact, and there are others who
will go to any length to deny it and/or rationalize it. ln that l have
devoted myself to eastern traditions for nearly 20 yrs, l definitely do not
rejoice in it. But l cannot deny it, nor am l able to buy into the
rationalizations l have heard offered in their behalf. Some argue that we
should only focus on the message and ignore the messenger's misdeeds. That,
again, is a matter of personal choice. lt just doesn't happen to be mine.
jerry

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