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Recieved: 2000/03/23 01:36
Subject: Re: [K-list]Osho.. was: Conny Larsson's Story on Sai Baba.
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
On 2000/03/23 01:36, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list:
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
At 10:44 PM 3/22/00 +0100, Danijel Turina wrote:
>From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamiskon.hr>
>What did the time
>tell? Angelique, you were one of the people to attack me then, and I am
>very glad that you stood in Sai Baba's defense now. This shows me that my
>work has sense, after all.
ROTFLOL!!! Figgers you would take my remarks as your being right. :) :)
Yes, Danijel, I attacked you, and I still attack you, at every
opportunity, only gentler.... but you left the list, so now I do it in private
mail. Only yesterday I attacked you in a post subject :"Gentle violence", and
you gave me back 7k of defensive arguments telling me I'm wrong, and 6
words of
how I might be right. LOL!! I love you because you make me laugh!
Right now I'm in the middle of writing you a gently violent attack for your
negative opinions of Osho. I interrupted writing to pick up the mail, and here
you are!! So I guess I'm meant to post my opinions of Osho, instead. :)
I attack you, because I love you. I attacked El and Christopher last
week,
too.. with gentle violence... because I love them utterly. They are
radiant, in
their human beauty. I'm half German, ya know, it is how we show love. :)
El attacked me back with sarcastic humor, and I was overjoyed! I felt
totally loved, it made me want to squish her with hugs. :) Her wit is far
superior to my own, she cracks me right up with the laughter of radiant
TRUTH... and the best part, is she is not at all attached to it, so I bow to
her Mastery.
I don't bow to yours, because you are so very attached to wanting me to,
and that makes you unworthy. LOL!!
It is also that I like to reflect people's judgments back at them as
opposition, no matter *what* the opinions are, really, so together we can
melt
them down into a middle path, and merge polarities to make the unity of the
Tao.
I defended Sai Baba because Goddess gave me the name Angelique Serpent, and
that means a lifetime of playing "Devil's advocate". Goddess also gave me this
German DNA, so it is an act of love, a pleasure for me to do it. Fun game!!
Wheeeeeee!!
I never get tired of the Zen game of merging contradictions..
I also love Tony the silly pompous doofus bonehead ex-Sai Baba devotee,
and
it was he who started this Sai Baba thread, that I ended up calling an end to
because there was not enough opposition to be a discussion, it was all
bandwagon-jumping on someone who was not present, to defend himself.
Tony likes my attacking him, I think, same as you do, or he'd not have
wished everyone a happy St. Patricks day.
Anyhow, here are my thoughts on Osho.. who I am passionately in love with,
even more now than I was before, simply because you don't like him. :)
<Danijel's "holier than thou" comments about his struggling poverty being
morally superior to Osho's Rolls Royces left private... well, snipped, at
least..:> >
You think that's "better"? LOL!! :)
I don't have judgments about that. Actually, that's not true.. I do have
judgments.. I think what he did is one of the most amazing acts of selfless
love I've ever heard of. When I finally understood what all that stuff about
the Rolls-Royces was really about, ... it blew my mind, and blew my scarcity
consciousness issues to smithereens. Beautiful, radiant... I love Osho. Love
him, love him, love him.
You can have Babaji, with his "I don't give a shit it's all Maya
attitude"..
I've met Babaji.. I called on him one day, to ask his intervention on India
testing nukes, and he showed up.. cranky at being disturbed.
I love Osho. He *cared* about people. He loved them.
Some Dominas insist their slaves sign over all their property, too, but I
don't.. the stuff is only of value to me, if it comes from the heart, of free
will desire to give. I make no demands, so my slaves spontanously give me
stuff, because they *want* to. It makes them feel good to do it.
Lots of Gurus of the East insist on owning their students stuff, because if
they cannot give up attachment to the material, then they haven't a hope, of
enlightenment, anyhow. Like that Jesus thing about a rich man being as
unlikely
to get to heaven as a camel passing thru the eye of a needle. The difference,
is whether they are attached to the wealth.
I used to have a lot of judgments about Rajneesh, too, when I was in
scarcity consciouness, I thought the cars were a terrible terrible thing, and
if he was really "spiritual" he should give the money to the poor. Made me
cranky!
I didn't get the joke... now that I understand it, I love him dearly, I
think he is/was brilliant. Beautiful, wonderful, truly enlightened. Radiant.
My judgments about the cars were a reflection of my own shit, and that poking
of my Karma was exactly what the Rolls Royces were all about!! To poke my
buttons!! And it worked!! Makes me LOL!! Once I understood that, a light went
on, and since then, I can only see beauty in it, and my money issues are a
non-issue.
He was a Master, he needed nothing, asked for nothing. The Rolls were a big
joke about the folly of materialism and ego-judgments of value.
What happened: His students kept giving him money, and he asked them why?
What did they want him to do with it?
They said, "we love you Master, and we want you to only have the best"..
He was without judgments or needs himself, he said" what do you mean
best?"
They said, "The best, like a Rolls Royce is the best car.." So, he started
buying them.. because that was what his students said they wanted for him. He
didn't care.. he was not attched to them at all, he was just reflecting,
making
a huge point.
Finally, after the US government went after him for tax evasion because his
acountants were crooked, etc... (he was not matrialistic, but some of his
followers were greedy, and they broke the law..) he declared that the joke
was
over, it wasn't funny anymore, it had served it's purpose.. he dropped the
Rajneesh and became simply Osho.
I think it's totally brilliant, an enormous, amazing act of love.. and I
salute his guts! Wow!! Gotta have no ego, to be willing to let the whole
planet
(including one sweet, impoverished Croation I know..:) ) make passionate,
angry
judgments of him being a greedy unenlightened materialist, for the sake of
getting his students to see beyond the illusion of scarcity, beyond the folly
of materialism, beyond ego judgments of "best".
He pissed off the whole planet, and let it judge him, attack him, but it
did
not touch him, because he acted, with unconditional love. That is so
radiant...
wow!
I can thank Osho for the millions incoming for the Mansion project. When I
finally got the joke, I laughed my ass off at the radiant TRUTH of it and my
money issues melted away like spring snow. I love him. Those cars were not for
him, they were for *me*! Because he loved me and he didn't even know my name.
I got more mileage out of them, than he did. :)
If I were to have a Guru, it would be him, and it is perfect that he is
dead.. "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him".. I don't have to, coz
somebody already did, Osho was poisoned.
I see the cars as similar to my whips and chains.. a poke at people's
judgments about what a "spiritual" person is supposed to be like..
I feel very close to his work, because he understood that the western mind
needs *catharsis* to break out of conditioning.. so he has dancing
meditations,
and screaming meditations, and all kinds of very active meditations,
jumping up
and down yelling meditations that get the whole body involved, that put the
body-mind first. Whippings are catharsis.
Just like I'm writing this Tantra course to teach men to be slaves, and
women
to be Dominant because it helps them break free of the male-superior
programming of patriarchy, better than anything else. We are already slaves to
cultural programming, and it takes a bold act, a big contrary reversal, to
break free of it.
It is actually, easier for the men, because service is considered worthy,
where women have witch-burnings fear of death in their DNA to go up against.
That's why I'm headed to Poona in summer, to the Osho meditation
retreat, to get inspiration for the Mansion project. Because Osho is
brilliant,
and beautiful. The more of his stuff I read, the more I love him.
I have to thank frans, who said my stuff reminded him of Osho.. high
praise!
He sent me this great link , and it was hilarious, so I was hooked!
http://www.osho.org/talks/audio/gpch23.ram
I think it you will like it Danijel, Osho explains about Germans, and how
God used to be the most important word, but then a German philosopher whose
name I cannot spell (Neitzchie?) said "God is dead" and now the most important
word is "Fuck".. it starts off kinda slow, but it is worth the bandwidth..:)
Better than Lenny Bruce!
Blessings!
Mystress Angelique Serpent, http://www.domin8rex.com
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