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Recieved: 2000/03/02 08:42
Subject: Achievement (was Re: [K-list] Terminology
From: Ville Vainio

From: Ville Vainio <vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi>

On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

> >What we need is a new terminology that's easy to understand, sort of
> >sanskrit-english.

> The experience of enlightenment cannot be descibed, in words. Trying to,
> comes out sounding like "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

It seems to be because spiritual reorganization makes one a specimen of
different species, not quite the "human" other people feel they themselves
are.

That is also why it's so hard to answer "what do you achieve when you get
enlightened"? Some people (not pointing a finger to any specific people,
or organizations... krhm) may answer that one gains bliss, or
intelligence, or creativity, but the receiver didn't gain anything, he
disappeared (gradually, occasionally painfully), and a new creature came
about, that didn't care about "receiving" anything, but just walking the
only path there is (dharma).

It's like "feeding" a dog by killing it. The dog is not hungry anymore,
since there is no more creature that would need food.

(No cute animals were harmed during the composition of this message).

Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
 Wild geese have no intention to cast a reflection
 Water has no mind to assume their form

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