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Recieved: 2000/03/01 17:15
Subject: [K-list] Re: Swastika and Brigid (To Tony)
From: Tony O'Clery
On 2000/03/01 17:15, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:
From: Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospamyahoo.com>
--- sasse <metavibATnospamyahoo.com> wrote:
> Namaste Tony!
>
> Even though I have learned to like the attitude of
> not-knowing, your letter triggered some of the
> concepts I still use at the moments when I want to
> make some sense of my experiences. The ideas that
> have rang right to me are different from yours, but
> at
> the end - it may not matter.
>
>
> I like the idea that each one of us has a fragment
> of
> God / spirit within and that one part of our
> "career"
> is to fuse with it - in this life or later. The
> spirit guides the evolving soul towards decisions
> that
> increase the flow of love and peace. Individual
> mind
> (all the past experiences and learned
> interpretations
> etc ) becomes more flexible/ reflective,
> spontaneous,
> open for creativity... I see K / prana / whatever
> strange energy activites there are as a sign of the
> God fragment trying to establish a new level of
> cowork. Because of the creative and power aspects
> of
> the spirit many "side-effects" show up (astral
> experiences, healings...).
>
> It is interesting that in spite of a different
> framework your mail was not "nonsense" to me. :)
> Thanks for mailing it. However, it is my experience
> that it is possible to communicate with the divine
> indweller (however erroneous the contact sometimes
> might be), to enjoy its presence, to surrender...
> and
> to enjoy the ordinary life as well. Perhaps even
> spread a bit of the love and peace that we have
> experienced.
>
> And Among all Gods and Deities there could be the
> Evolving Deity whose cells we are. But we do not
> know...
>
> Love,
> Sasse
Namaste Sasse,
I don't disagree with your position. However I tend to
think we are divine as opposed to a spark of it.
We cannot feel the divinity but we can feel the
evidence of it in bliss etc.
In higher samadhi there is no feeling at all. So I am
not saying in meditation one cannot commune with the
divine that is become what we are, but if we remember
it, it didn't happen.
I see that your integration philo is similar to
Aurobindo. I take a more adwaitic path or non-duality.
If you can experience anything then there is an ego
therefore no realisation.
Again it is about the different meaning of words.
Ultimately there is none of this at all. In the
meantime the word Sakti as it is understood in Sankrit
is somewhat used differently in the west as is Maya.
K is essentially a cleansing process so that the
body/mind complex can move toward a purified mind and
realisation. Although like siddhis some get distracted
and see it as an end.
Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.
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ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real,
THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,
MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.
OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.
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