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Recieved: 2000/03/01 14:32
Subject: [K-list] Swastika and Brigid (To Tony)
From: sasse
On 2000/03/01 14:32, sasse posted thus to the K-list:
From: sasse <metavibATnospamyahoo.com>
Namaste Tony!
Even though I have learned to like the attitude of
not-knowing, your letter triggered some of the
concepts I still use at the moments when I want to
make some sense of my experiences. The ideas that
have rang right to me are different from yours, but at
the end - it may not matter.
I like the idea that each one of us has a fragment of
God / spirit within and that one part of our "career"
is to fuse with it - in this life or later. The
spirit guides the evolving soul towards decisions that
increase the flow of love and peace. Individual mind
(all the past experiences and learned interpretations
etc ) becomes more flexible/ reflective, spontaneous,
open for creativity... I see K / prana / whatever
strange energy activites there are as a sign of the
God fragment trying to establish a new level of
cowork. Because of the creative and power aspects of
the spirit many "side-effects" show up (astral
experiences, healings...).
It is interesting that in spite of a different
framework your mail was not "nonsense" to me. :)
Thanks for mailing it. However, it is my experience
that it is possible to communicate with the divine
indweller (however erroneous the contact sometimes
might be), to enjoy its presence, to surrender... and
to enjoy the ordinary life as well. Perhaps even
spread a bit of the love and peace that we have
experienced.
And Among all Gods and Deities there could be the
Evolving Deity whose cells we are. But we do not
know...
Love,
Sasse
>From: Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospamyahoo.com>
>
>Namaste All, Hillary,
>
>Further to my post on Sakti. One understands there is
>Siva/Sakti, Siva is The Self, Sakti is Maya or the
>power of Maya, Saguna Brahman, Devi, Iswara, Goddess.
>Undifferentiated she is the form of the three gunas
or
>modes, action, dullness, and pure state.
>
>Sakti is indescribable and beginningless; she neither
>has form or is formless. Her existence is inferred by
>those who understand from her effects.
>
>She is neither being or non-being, she has a
>projecting power and she is supreme peace.
>
>Prana is her instrument, Sakti can not be 'known' or
>'felt' until the moment of Liberation. Beyond Sakti
is
>the God of 'No Attributes', Nirguna Brahman.
>
>Prana is the feeling of Kundalini, Sakti cannot be
>felt unless you have become 'God', for she is God. It
>all happens in the mind anyway, they are mental
>constructs.Even the psychic powers are but mental
>constructs. Kundalini can help clear the way but it
>does not lead to Liberation itself for it is within
>the illusory world of experience. One more step is
>required , Siva/Sakti or Nirguna and Saguna Brahman,
>God Isvara etc are not united at the Sahasrara.
>
>Kundalini is prana, the consciousness within cannot
be
>felt only be realised.
>
>This doesn't take away from K, it just puts in order
>the false use of terminologies that's all. And false
>claims made by so many about Sakti etc.
>
>K is a Prana, one cannot feel Sakti unless one claims
>to be God.
>
>Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.
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