To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/01/25 08:16
Subject: Straight vs. gay (was Re: [K-list] A Response on Sai Baba.
From: Ville Vainio
On 2000/01/25 08:16, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:
From: Ville Vainio <vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi>
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, luz . wrote:
> Yes! Why is it that ppl find it so easy to ridicule and belittle sex between
> men or between women, when heterosex is considered sacred manifestation of
> the dance of energy between Shiva/Parvathi, Yin/Yang, or whatever other
> cosmic male/female dualisms you may choose to read it as?
Probably because heterosexual activity is possibly the most fundamental
fragment of the dna-code (a computer virus without replication code
wouldn't live long...). DNA must ensure that we have enough excuses for
sex, even after we may start questioning whether or not it makes that much
sense.
> Come on, folks; dances of energy have no specific gender, as far as I can
The actual dance of energy, the electromagnetic vibration that makes up
this space-time continuum doesn't have too much attributes in the first
place... and gender is definitely not one of them. As for the "spiritual
energy", we must understand that it is a secondary product of "mammalian
life"-energy, which is traditionally heterosexual. With K, the
spirituality takes up a different form, possibly even that of "deviant"
sexuality, where heterosexuality doesn't seem that fundamental anymore...
just as other basic dna-constructs (ego, desire) lose significance.
I believe that the glorification of heterosexuality is a result of 60's
LSD-spirituality, which is more "colourful" and groovy than the previous
ascetic, elitistic, airtight versions of spirituality. Psychedelic
experience can be extremely heterosexual, the experiencer conjures up all
kinds of screwing-the-mother-earth and eternal-flow-of-glowing-flesh-life
fantasies. This is the same slot where the interpersonal left-hand-path
tantra goes. Two guys buttfucking each other just doesn't have the same
place in these sex-is-sacred fantasies.
Previously, Jon-Carl wrote:
> This really hurts my feelings, especially since I have experienced some
> pretty interesting spiritual awakenings from jacking other guys off and
> sucking another guy's penises and having mine sucked.
I think that for someone heterosexual (which you are not, but anyway)
doing these things might have some spiritual impact, due to the strong
revolting-but-exciting conflicts in the brain and the relief of breaking
them... this is a technique I believe some occultists use.
> And then you talk about Christians being narrow minded.
Actually, after K awakened, I believe that I have become much more narrow
minded and old-fashioned, as far as mechanical doings of unaware beings
(puppets who do *not* see the strings...) are concerned. Obviously, those
who are aware about what they are doing are doing the right thing...
possibly even Sai Baba (who seems to be the public enemy number 1 these
days).
> What the HELL?
The usual.
Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
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