To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/01/24 23:07
Subject: Re: [K-list] Raising K sex and avatars.
From: Wim Borsboom
On 2000/01/24 23:07, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
From: "Wim Borsboom" <aurasphereATnospamhome.com>
Tony,
Much of what you write I agree with.
A few strong notes though, and I know that what I write is not acceptable to
many, especially not ppl following traditional spiritual or religious
philosophy.
You wrote:
>A realised being in union with transcendent
>as opposed to immanent God
Of late I have come to the 'absolute' discovery and recognition that
'transcendance' is a fallacy.
Is this debatable? Not with me :-) But anybody is free to debate that to
one's wit's end :-)
>Most of what is written about on this site is not K
>per se but cleansing prana, or pre-K, hence all the
>experiences.
Oh, oh, do not do that, Tony! Such remarks can do great harm... such remarks
will hamper the appropriate unfoldment of Kundalini's graces. I speak from
some experience, have actually seen an acclaimed and self acclaimed avatar
make great mistakes on this issue.
BTW, am I an avatar? Really the whole 'avatar concept' is absurd, wrong
philosophy, antropology, religion, metaphysics, totally outdated... Come on
let's liberate ourselves from the spell of avatarhood. Am I God? Really the
whole God concept is...........
>Enjoying energy rushes and experiences is desire
This statement, although semantically correct, can lead to quite some
confusion and cause harm to ppl going through the initial stages of the K
process.
You mean of course that 'enjoyment' could have to do, or has to do with
desire. However... this kind of statement has to include the word
'attachment' somewhere to be complete, otherwise the understanding of your
phrase will not lead to liberation. Also I hope not that you mean that
energy rushes and experiences in themselves are desire. That would be the
same as saying that electricity that flows through powerlines is desire, or
that a lightning bolt or lightning strike is. Or that the experience of
lightning striking is desire.
One needs to be carefull with such statements... are you sure you talk from
liberation... yet. I do not try to be fascetious here or harsh on you...
just trying to prevent harm... Hope you can stand my finger wagging :-) I
have this terrible knack to do that every so often :-)
The following statement from me is rather harsh and probably not well
thought through, but I am daring enough to let it stand for now and let you
have a look at it... there is more truth to it than one would think at first
sight:
The Kundalini process is actually NOT some kind of yoga. It is a natural
inborn dynamic and energetic regrowth process in the human being, it comes
from within and enables and allows a hurt, enslaved and victimized person
to re-ORIGINATE him or herself. Most forms of yoga are cut-up, analysed and
systemised kundalini gleanings, snippets and characteristics (the asanas,
the mantras, the mudras) mixed in with a heavy dose of morality and
prescribed modes of living. It allows some socially attractive patch up
jobs, at best holding patterns for people in waiting for the next cycle of
life which hopefully will not be compromised. Many of these 'yoga' practices
are put into some marketable and teachable format to raise not Kundalini nor
consciousness but money...
>The Immanent God or Devi and her manifestation Sakti,
>also have a life span and aren't permanent. They
>dissolve with universes at pralaya or dissolution,
>which occurs cyclically. Only Transcendent God or
>Nirguna Brahman is real.
Of late I have come to the 'absolute' discovery and recognition that
transcendence is a fallacy.
Is this debatable? Not with me :-) But anybody is free to debate that to
one's wit's end :-)
Nirguna Brahman and Transcendent God do not mean the same. Mixing
philosophies does not work too well anyways.
Now for something positive....
Love, Wim
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