To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/01/22 13:22
Subject: [K-list] S.B. re Angelique et al.
From: Tony O'Clery
On 2000/01/22 13:22, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:
From: Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospamyahoo.com>
Namast All, Angelique,
The problem with Sai Baba is that he isn't a guru, and
his whole deal is based on deception, garnering
wealth/influence and molesting pubescent boys, and
even murders have occurred. I am not anti-homosexual,
whatever turns you on. Consent and age is the point
here.
I don't care if you swing from chandaliers with a
banana up your arse, it doesn't bother me. It may
bother the monkeys though!
Deception and manipulation does. For it goes against
free-will. Also as he obviously has desires he cannot
be the realised soul he says he is. For a guru to lead
one to realisation they also must be realised for the
guru is god.
So if you aren't realised you are a teacher not a
guru, or more correctly a Satguru.
What he is, is an astral being with power and he is
here to collect and recollect 'souls'.
If he ever had siddhic powers apart from astral
travelling they are well gone now. Probably due in no
small case to his deceit, lies and non-consentual
sexual activities and desires.
He really is an Asura from the Astral and was probably
here on earth 20 million years ago with the first
influx of these beings. There is no reason to feel
sorry for this 'being', everything he does is
deliberate. He need only say, 'the time of
materialisations is over', and he would cover his
arse. He keeps doing it so the money and souls keep
flowing.
I'm afraid there are few saving graces for him. He
bi-locates or astrally manifests to save a life that
can be useful to him. Conny was a Swedish film star
and well known and he did great work in building
Sai-Org in Europe. S.B. takes advantage of those with
low self-esteem, and others.
I'm afraid Angelique your weak defenses of Sai Baba
don't wash. I know you see some comparisons between
you and Baba but none really apply. Your stuff is with
consenting adults etc, and you are not claiming to be
an avatar or satguru.
ASTRAL ATTACKS!!!!
She wrote>dearest tony;
i would like to thank you for taking the time you did
to write and give
me so much information, i have been thinking of
pulling away for awhile
myself since my 7 year old daughter started having
horrific nightmares
of baba sexually abusing her? i don't quite understand
how this
happens,
but she is first priority and my reason for living
good luck in all you endeavor and try to keep in
touch
love and light<
He never was my god, we are all god, and he never will
be my demon, we are all that too, but he has to be
exposed for mankind's sake. It is my flow of karma to
help with this, that's all. Irishmen like causes
anyway ha ha ha!
Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.
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Keep on truckin-Chant the Gayatri! Breathe So----Ham!
http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/sanskritglos.htm
ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real,
THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,
MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.
OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.
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