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Recieved: 2000/01/20 11:33
Subject: [K-list] Deep sleep and what is the soul?
From: Tony O'Clery
On 2000/01/20 11:33, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:
From: Tony O'Clery <aocleryATnospamyahoo.com>
Namaste All, K-lst and Harsha/s
With regard to the difference between deep sleep and
samadhi; It is my understanding that deep sleep is a
constant thought of 'no thought', a thin veil,
nidra,if you will between the awakeness of samadhi.
However it is also my understanding that in certain
samadhis one can be unconscious of the world yet be
awake and in others one can be conscious of the world
and even function in it. There is Savikalpa and
Nirvikalpa Samadhis, with attributes and without
attributes.
It is my personal experience in meditation that many
times I awake with the bliss memory of a samadhi.
This feeling can last for sometime and can be
sustained in some form. This can also happen when
awakening from sleep, especially if one is praying or
meditating before sleep. For the meditation continues
whilst one is sleeping.
On another subject re 'souls';
It is my belief there is only one soul in the
universe, Nirguna Brahman, all else is really
comprising of thought . We are aggregates or thought
entities. In Vedantic parlance that would really
constitute the vijnanamayakosa and the anandamayakosa,
the bliss and awareness sheaths.
If one is at a low level of awareness at death then
some of the lower sheaths can survive, for a time, if
they are not dropped. Even if one is not at a low
level of awareness but has one's mind filled with
images and thought of something, that will exert an
influence. Catholic sacraments can do this of course
and topically, Sai Baba.
It is my theory that he is collecting souls for his
onward game, he is not interested in moksha, he has
too many sexual and other attachments. He knows this
can go on forever dissolution of the universe upon
dissolution of the universe, pralaya after
mahapralaya! He wishes people to die with their minds
on him and their subconscious full of him.
After death in the bardo, there is no analytical
conscious mind, so the subconscious becomes the mind.
If your mind is full of Sai Baba then you will
reincarnate with him, and in the meantime serve him on
the astral. This is the old judeo/christian concept of
'captive souls'. For after all a soul entity is only a
thought and a thought can be manipulated and
influenced.
There is only one real soul and that is 'God', or
universal consciousness, the human soul is an entity
or aggregate and ego thought.
With regard to dna etc, all is one really, we only
divide it all into subtle, gross etc for convenience,
so why wouldn't there be memory imprints and carry
over?
Love and Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.
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Keep on truckin-Chant the Gayatri! Breathe So----Ham!
ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real,
THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,
MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.
OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.
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