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Recieved: 2000/01/20 06:02
Subject: Re: [K-list] A Controversial Question.
From: Christopher Wynter
On 2000/01/20 06:02, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:
From: Christopher Wynter <wynterATnospamone.net.au>
Hello Maureen ...
a very valid and understandable perspective ..
and maybe the following reply will assist ...
At 05:56 PM 20/01/00 , you wrote:
>From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
>
>Christopher Wynter wrote:
>
> > Now maybe you understand a little of why I write the way I do,
> > the relevance of what I write ..
>
>~~*+M~*
> Honestly Chris, I do not. That's why I brought that point up about
>what pagans did to XTians before Xtians did it to pagans. If you say it
>is remembered and then produced in the bodies,where is it?
It is located in the cellular structure of the body .. within the generational
changes to the genes within the DNA. I did post to this list a piece a few
days ago
briefly explaining the process of how this occurs (around 13th Jan) ..
if you like I can post this to you again off list ..
I am rewriting it for my web site at the moment.
>In all of
>your writings and sharings I have never read where it has gone back
>before the RC Catholic Church. It appears to be stuck there.
There have been several posts where I have taken the remembering
back to beyond the androgyne to the asexual "innocent", polymorphic birth
of the first children .. and beyond that again to the densification of matter
from the first emanation from the void/no-thingness.
This is also material which has come up out of the remembering of the physical
bodies of my group here in Tasmania .. and in fact, Fiona posted her
experience
of "the Universe in a single cell" .. remembering which came out of her body.
>The cells
>apparently are limited in recalling only those particular dates but not
>all the horrible trauma that ocurred before. In studying the XTian/pagan
>karmic tie, I seem to only read half of the picture from your group. And
>that is my objection to half of a truth much more so than discussing any
>particular religion.
The so-called pagan belief system had an understanding of Creation, God,
Soul family and tribe which was closer to the original myth of creation
than did the RC teaching .. which was/is a corruption of the original
Christian teachings ... If you read up on the Council of Nycea, you will see
some of the Roman efforts at modification of the principles there.
There have been very many body memories that have come from pagan rituals ..
some of them quite nasty ... but they are not nearly so general and
deliberately
coded into the body as those emanating from Roman Doctrine.
There is influence and memory from the Greek culture .. and quite a lot
from the
Celtic (and gypsy) traditions .. but the influence is not as strong because
neither
posed a mass (idealogical) threat to the survival of a gene pool.
Within the Pagan and indeed all of the tribal ritual, there is maintained
at least a certain integrity of the individual which is totally taken away
by the emphasis on the external god/saviour complex .. and a belief system
which
was enforced through force of arms ...
for example with repression of the Eastern Christians by the Crusades..
and the Cathars .. to quote a couple of examples.
It is the dependance of belief as a survival factor which sees
the memories of particularly the RC regime attach itself to
chromosome 38 .. the Survival Chromosome on a mass scale ..
affecting a common gene pool of a wide cross section of people
for many generations.
The recent Korsovo situation is an example of genetic patterns being re-enacted
over many thousands of years .. where there is conflict between one tribe
and another (of different belief) .. and many commentators have shown the
link here
back before the Ottermans .. and some have connected it to the Mogul hords.
"Modern" Spirituality is primarily based on a loose link between Eastern
and Western
idealogies ... which is a good thing .. and would be better served if there
was a complete
metamorphisis in these spiritualities allowed to take place.
Unfortunately there is within the western mindset a belief that the body is
not a safe
place .. and this comes from the ownership of the body and soul
attributable directly to
the liturgy of the Church of Rome ...
so it is these key words that bring up reaction from the body
when some familiar terms are used
There are many paths ... but from what I have remembered within my death
experiences,
it is the "mind stuff" from which the judgement comes that sees an entity
re-incarnate.
And this mind stuff can only be overcome from within the physical body ..
and this can only
fully occur when the subconscious and unconscious minds are brought to full
consciousness.
The subconscious and unconscious minds are located within the cells of the
physical body ..
and the separation point is what I term, the denial threshold.
Kundalini as it moves through the body,
will seek to move all of the beliefs in holding patterns which separate the
conscious
from the unconscious.
If the mind reacts in fear (the remembering of past trauma), then the
holding patterns will be further repressed and physical discomfort will be
the result ..
particularly when the symptoms of the release go directly against some
previously
experienced doctrine on which survival was dependent.
It is the symptoms of "enlightenment" which the Catholic Church
sought so strongly to repress through the removal of personal integrity
and creation of a dependance on the church for survival/salvation.
Complete enlightenment comes when the descending flow and the ascending
flow are one ..
when the "descending Spirit" meets the ascending Kundalini as one energy...
in Kabbalistic terms when the Crown and the Firmament are one.
Meditation, contemplation yoga will awaken the Kundalini .. and trigger the
genetic fear
of the consequences of Self Realisation.
From my experience, working with a cross cultural group, the dogma and
doctrine
of the RC church is the single most repressive factor within those with a
(so called)
western genetic background ... and also within those cultures which have
experienced the "missionary work" of the RC Church .... which goes against
tribal spirituality.
Now .. for those of eastern extraction, there is a slightly different genetic
line of denial to follow .. one that depends primarily on race .. and is
directly
related to the spiritual implications of the caste system
I hope this assists a deeper understanding .. and I thank you for triggering me
into putting this stuff into writing in more detail
Christopher Wynter
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