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Subject: Re: [K-list] kundalini, is it this, chakras,nadis,mudras,all th
From: Marion Hanvey
On 2000/01/14 02:35, Marion Hanvey posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Jenell,
If I understand the end of your post right, you appear to say that k and
psychic abilities come as a result of clearing garbage, no no I never said
that, and if I inadvertently did or appeared to I didn't mean that. If
there was no garbage to clear from this lifetime, we would have a clear
channel yes? Zoom, right to the source. The garbage comes from the
interaction with other people, and the lifetime experiences we all have as
we grow up and in our lives as adults. That's why we need to clear it to
get back to the source.
Or at least have a "so what" attitude to it.
It happened, "so what", it's not there now. (Hopefully!)
As to your abilities transforming and evolving, they will as you acknowledge
and work with them.
I suppose that's why wise men say have the innocence of a child and the
intelligence of an adult. When innocence and intelligence go together a
beauty dawns.
(Sorry to go back to yoga, but kundalini is an Eastern concept, or
discovery, or whatever you want to call it.)
Anyway, I don't know what else to say, except that you're a highly evolved
soul.
Everybody on the spiritual path is otherwise they wouldn't bother, they'd be
out getting drunk. I still do that. Go out and get drunk.
Lots of love
Loulou
>From: Jenell <anglfthrATnospamiamerica.net>
>To: loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com
>CC: kundaliniATnospamtopica.com
>Subject: Re: [K-list] kundalini, is it this, chakras,nadis,mudras,all the
>rest
>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:53:53 -0600
>
>Marion Hanvey wrote:
> >
> > Dear Jenell,
> >
> > If you are getting Spirit contact, clairvoyance, precognition, awareness
>of
> > the subtle body/ys, chakras, all or any of that, or any other phenomena
>that
> > are outside the range of "normal" experience, then you can safely say,
>the
> > chakras are open, or opening, and that kundalini is rising.
> >
>(J)Obviously.
>
>Now, question. While this 'big bang' opening, or awakening, happened in
>the past few years, it is actually a RE opening for me. I had such
>abilties quite evident as a very young child, from as early as i can
>remeber. For the bad reactions to them by those around me, the religious
>environment I was raised in, etc, I had aparantly mostly suppressed by
>early teens. Howver, even so, 'remarkable', downright clearly
>'supernatuaral' incidents, usually in context of emergencies, times of
>need or crisis, etc, presence of guidance outside of myself, etc, were a
>part of my 'nornal' life. I could tell others of one or two incidents,
>hery, they could handle that, lots of people have one or a few in their
>lives, but when I kept laying them out, people found it too much, it
>because not beleivable to them. Things like experiencing 'another being'
>take over my ations, my own mind 'stepping aside', in the split seconds
>of a hight spped multi vehicle pile up on a rain slick freeway, a dream
>about a house i wasn't to actually see for sime weeks, that, when I
>'recongnized' it from the scary dream, kept me from renting it, shortly
>after, people died in that house due to carbon monoxide from the heating
>system, sometimes 'hearing' words in my mind I knew were not 'mine' that
>guided, explained, instructed, warned, etc, me. I have always seemed a
>very bold, fearless woman, I now realize it's becasue even suppressed, I
>still had something of a 'sensing' system that kept me aware of safety
>or danger in my surroundings, etc.
>
>i also now realize the empathy and telepathy were already there, all my
>life too, i just didn't recognize that, and know now that had really
>worked havoc in my life, in personal relationships, all my life. Now
>that i am consciously aware of it, I can better 'protect' myself from
>affects through it. such things as having had more than one occasion of
>my getting involved with men that even at the time, I didn't know why,
>they really weren't men I particularly liked or admired, it seemed some
>purely physcial sexual thing. i now know that I have been, and am,
>suseptible to being 'controlled, manipulated, influenced,' directly, by
>the thoughts and emotions of others, through my empath/telepathy, but I
>didn't know that then, and of course, they didn't/do't, either. I mean
>that a man's desire for me, sexual and possessive, would be percived by
>my empathy, and I responded to it, not knowing it wasn't originating in
>me. Does that make sense?
>
>Now, the ability to CONVEY energies to others, such as through healing
>effrots, and what i call 'shaktipat', is aparantly recent in
>development, the past 3 to 4 yrs. I had gone through a 'strange
>euphoric' period about 20 yrs ago, and that's when the guided and
>automatic writing began, and that itself I realized had been what a
>dream i'd been having since age 5 was about. In it, Jesus was directing
>me to pick up plastic letters, like used on sign boards, and then
>directing me to place them on a wall that was like a sign board, and for
>all my life to that point, it had frustrated me every time I had that
>dream, that there weren't yet enough letters to know what He was telling
>me through them. 20 yrs ago, the dream came for the last time, in it, i
>realized it wasn't what was in those letters that He meant to show me,
>it was simply that He would GIVE me letters, words. The guided and
>automatic writing began at that time. In the dream, when I realized
>that, he actually smiled at me, his expression one of 'Well, you finally
>got it!'
>
>Over the next years, I wrote reams of stuff, both that instructed and
>explained, and often involved two way conversations, myself asking
>questions and making comments, the responses form Him coming back to me
>through the automatic writing. 'We', me and the spiritual being I
>recongize as my 'guide', through that means, 'talk' with each other. I
>had never heard of automatic writing at the time, was some years before
>I learned others had experienced that.
>
>Jenell
>
>So, obviousy this all goes way back into childhood for me, the 'k'
>activity.
>Jenell
>So, since this was present from childhood, it seems I either entered
>this life, at birth, 'open', or it is connected to a death experience at
>1 1/2 yrs old, when i fell into a lake and was under water for at least
>20 minutes. anyway, the question here, obviously, my 'awakening', or at
>least my first one, as a baby or child, isn't entirely related to having
>worked through THIS life's inner garbage, so where does this place me in
>relation to that concept? Very definitely I've been working through some
>heavy baggage of THIS life the past several years, since it REopened,
>but it was already open, or 'up and running', in me, aprantly, before
>that.
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