To: K-list
Recieved: 2000/01/13 11:41
Subject: Re: [K-list] Really wondering
From: Jenell
On 2000/01/13 11:41, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
winter mute wrote:
>
>
> But I detect more subtle layers in your
> question. Are you looking for affirmation ?
>
> I wrote a lot the past days and you seem to have
> specifially homed in on my posts in your
> question, therefore:
>
> I can only speak for myself, but
> nothing of what I write about is "deliberate"
> or "technical" in the sense that it has been
> taught or is sought after.
>
Please, no, I am neither seeking personal affirmation, or a postion of
'superiority' related to those experiencing all this differently,
through aparantl a different manner of 'awakening'. I'm trying to
explore, examine, that aspect of it, toward understanding. Not to affirm
myself or any other, and discredit any other.
As to using the terms we've found in books that seem to realte to our
expeiences, we can't do anything else but that, if we are to try to
communicate with one another. we needs words to help us do that. I, too,
have had to seek through various sources what words to use, that tohers
might know what I'm talking about. That is not at all the same as I
might mean when I say something about those that seem to have just read
some books and from that are trying to convince themselves or others
thye thereby 'know' all this. That involves something of what another
thread here has vbeen trying to address, those that don't understand
that 'k' is not a thing we can 'learn', that it isn't in the realm of
things of ordinary 'learning'. The same thing I've heard said about Zen,
it is error to say 'I want to learn Zen', for Zen cannot be taught, it
is a state of awareness, of being. One can learn ABOUT Zen, or k, one
can study toward hw to BECOME Zen, or arouse k, but one cannot 'learn'
Zen, or K, through studying it, learning ABOUT it.
No offense intend at all, Amanda, toward you or anyone else, okay?
In peace and love,
As just another one trying to find the best way to negotiate this white
water river we are all caught up in together, (and yes, sometimes a
little natural irritation at those standing on the banks watching trying
to tell us how we should be doing it)
Jenell
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