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Recieved: 2000/01/12 18:04
Subject: Re: [K-list] Really wondering
From: Christopher Wynter
On 2000/01/12 18:04, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list:
Does the reply I just posed on list
help explain some of what you ask ..
I would be happy to answer this on list .. but
specific answers could be quite lengthy because of the complexity of the
very valid questions you ask ...
In my opinion, Kundalini 'worship'
has almost become a religion ..
rather than the individual expression of the manifestation
of the truth of who you really are ..
and all of the individual experiences or symptoms
are merely transpersonal experiences
which should be passed through as quickly as possible ...
to allow unfoldment
which can not be a sought after outcome ...
because to seek,
you have must have a preconception
of what you are seeking ..
and this is a limitation
of the possibility
Christopher Wynter
At 11:51 AM 13/01/00 , you wrote:
>I've had others rasie this question to me, and it's getting to be ore of
>oe for me all the time.
>
>that is, are we really talking at all about the same thing when we talk
>of 'k' in context of what is invovled in deliberate practices, yoga
>excercises, breathing excercies, etc, and that which we call spontaneous
>'k' arousal? More and more i'm really questioning this, for my own and
>that of toehrs with spontaeous awakening seem to actually have little in
>common with what those using deliberate practices expereince. I've never
>had anything like what are called the mudras and kyras, things like
>'nectar' dripping from one's palate, talking about feeling k coming up
>oe or another different channel in the spine, I've never had any
>awareness of it specifically coming up my spine at all, never had 'light
>shooting up my spine', or out the top of my head, etc etc. Yet I've
>experiences flow of powerful energies, shakti as it seems to be called,
>paranormal phenomenon, psychic expereiences, experienced transformation
>and enlightment in various ways, and by various means, including
>'hearing' voices that instruct and teach, sometimes convey information
>aparantly from deceased people even, awareness in various ways of
>'spiritual entities', spiritual beings, with too much 'verification' of
>their 'presence' to dismiss as just my imagination or hallucinations,
>visions and dreams, 'messages through signs', or synchronicities, etc,
>which it seems is not usually a part of the experience of those
>deliberately practicing to 'raise k'. This doesn't seem to be just a
>difference in my cultural way of percieving it, or the words I would
>choose to define/describe, but a different kind of experience, period.
>
>I'm really wondering if we are really talking about two or even more,
>quite diferent phenomen?
>Jenell
>
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