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Recieved: 2000/01/12 17:51
Subject: [K-list] Really wondering
From: Jenell

I've had others rasie this question to me, and it's getting to be ore of
oe for me all the time.

that is, are we really talking at all about the same thing when we talk
of 'k' in context of what is invovled in deliberate practices, yoga
excercises, breathing excercies, etc, and that which we call spontaneous
'k' arousal? More and more i'm really questioning this, for my own and
that of toehrs with spontaeous awakening seem to actually have little in
common with what those using deliberate practices expereince. I've never
had anything like what are called the mudras and kyras, things like
'nectar' dripping from one's palate, talking about feeling k coming up
oe or another different channel in the spine, I've never had any
awareness of it specifically coming up my spine at all, never had 'light
shooting up my spine', or out the top of my head, etc etc. Yet I've
experiences flow of powerful energies, shakti as it seems to be called,
paranormal phenomenon, psychic expereiences, experienced transformation
and enlightment in various ways, and by various means, including
'hearing' voices that instruct and teach, sometimes convey information
aparantly from deceased people even, awareness in various ways of
'spiritual entities', spiritual beings, with too much 'verification' of
their 'presence' to dismiss as just my imagination or hallucinations,
visions and dreams, 'messages through signs', or synchronicities, etc,
which it seems is not usually a part of the experience of those
deliberately practicing to 'raise k'. This doesn't seem to be just a
difference in my cultural way of percieving it, or the words I would
choose to define/describe, but a different kind of experience, period.

I'm really wondering if we are really talking about two or even more,
quite diferent phenomen?
Jenell

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