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Recieved: 1999/11/28 12:25
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Sckeptics* Anonymous
From: Fredaann
On 1999/11/28 12:25, Fredaann posted thus to the K-list:
Wim,
I understand that I dont understand the particulars about this semen to
the brain
throat, or wherever it was, I THINK this was the topic which started
this post, if not let it apply to whatever, this will covers many things
I have
yet to understand you see it is something that is
unacceptable to 'my' brain, as of yet, I dont say it isnt something you
have
experienced, it just goes against 'my' logic. So, I read it and get on
with other
stuff, my mind isnt closed, but I also dont understand how it is
possible.
For the record, Steve's Paragraph makes sense,
> Tom wrote:
> >>Plus, evidence is good for ruling out nonsense anyway: I like
> >>"reality" to be consistent. It may not be, but I try and understand it
> >>that way until it *proves* to be otherwise. I see it as a form of Truth.
I have read and re-read this and it makes sense.
I am wondering what about it is confusing you, cause I am trying to
understand 'your' words concerning the semen changing corse...
> Just reading that gets my brain folds contorted and warped. Can't even tell
> left from right anymore. :-)
As it came down in my brain, it was you who contorted and warped MY
brain,
I wonder if it is a confusion between up and down your really having
trouble
with, not left from right. : ))
THAT is humor, just in case you misunderstand.....
what didnt make sense was your
description of your experience...
sorry.
for all of us. I sam sorry because you seem to be offended that others
find your
experiences odd enough that and ask for clarification, or proof.
and sorry that some of us need
that proof. I'll never get it in this lifetime, being as a woman. I can
only
assume you experienced what you say, weather or not it is a fantasy
created to
ease your mind of your progress, or weather you truely have physically
changed,
and so you funtion differently than other men matters not to me one way
or the other.
It seems to me that if you have been blessed, or cursed, with something
outside
of what is 'norm' for others - seeminly the same as you, ie... human
man...
then the burden of proof would be yours, its the way it works, logical,
not
fair maybe, frustrating even to some I would suppose, but
understandable.
I find is sometimes difficult to sort the garbage from the authentic in
the
spiritual things, and unless spirit has guided me to the truth of
something, no
matter how odd it may seem I keep my mind open, but I am an easily
swayed
human, and therefore, when things are really out of the ordinarry
experiences
I tend to look for some credibility of the experience.
not with a closed mind, with an open mind, I want to understand, and I
question
this isnt the same as doubting, not really.
I have experienced things which I would not repeat to another human,
cause I
cant explain it even to me. Thats MY way, yours is to share, different
strokes
for different folks as they say.
But,
I wonder about those of you who do speak 'your' truth, knowing you are
somehow
'different' the the masses, Knowing you will be called to the carpet by
the
masses, YOu know you will, it wouldnt be an interesting topic if it were
otherwise,
quite frankly when I read you talking down to those who quesion you, I
read arrogance
in your words, and a little, "ner, ner, ner ner, I got upwards semen and
youuuuu donnnnt,
ner, ner, ner ner ner ner!"
I find it interesting to read about things I dont understand yet, and I
ask questions
to clarifiy my understanding.
The trouble is taking everything I hear and read as literal truth doesnt
work any better
than distrusting what I hear and read.
In the end, I trust that spirit will, if its important, guide me to
understand what
I need to understand all in good time.
I appreicate your sharing, many things you talk about here are beyond
me, my mind is
open, my skull may be a bit thick though, so you keep talking, and I am
gonna keep reading.
No matter your underlying jabs at those of us less enlightened than you.
I know I have a distance to travel yet before I have anything
that even remotely resembles enlightenment,
so your jabs, even though they are directed at others,
I read them and take them personally,
oh oh, that would make it MY problem,
yeah yeah yeah, I know that, that is why I am
jumping in on this : )
Be genle with me, I'm at the bottom of the totem pole upon which you
sit,
When you know you are presenting me with an experience that you KNOW is
going to tetter
my ballance, the least you could do is bear your own weight while I
adjust....
surely you were once in my position, to have risen to where you are
freda
burried under the weight of not having been enlightend...
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