To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/27 11:36
Subject: [K-list] Re: Daya and Compassion.
From: Tony O'Clery
On 1999/11/27 11:36, Tony O'Clery posted thus to the K-list:
Sai Ram Brothers and Sisters,
Compassion doesn't mean that sometimes one hasn't to
be blunt, if the motive is full of Love/Energy. My
post indicated that 'liberation', required moving
above the mind sheath or kosa: And indicated that
meat eating was an impediment to this. This was not
uncompassionate! Blunt!-Yes. Not as blunt as Jesus
whipping the money changers out of the temple in
compassion for the animals that were sold there for
sacrifice. My compassion is for all to be
'liberated', including myself and the animals etc.
Some say it is an attack on meat-eaters. The reverse
is cheering on the slaughter and cruelty, with,
'Silence of the Lambs', in the background, plus the
associated karma.
Saying that all is a one-cell animal, plants suffer
etc etc, is the same 'cop-out', as 'all is one', it's
not real etc. It's real whilst one is in it! The
yardstick is choosing to hurt the least. The intent
is all important, most excuses to me sound like the
usual ones for wishing to retain an addictive
attachment. I have heard and used them all in my time
for I am a recovering alcoholic and am familiar with
self-deception. Unfortunately to gain this awareness
in most cases requires stopping the meat-eating
practice and realising this is a hindrance to
'liberation'. That is if one is compassionate and
desires 'liberation', at all, only a handful will
succeed. So not hurting anyone in thought, word, or
deed does not mean being,'weak'.
The spiritual path is an uphill one for sure. I chose
meat-eating because it involves cruelty, violence,
deprivation of life, and is injurious to the consumer
and the environment. However if one has no desire for
'liberation', then it is just 'food' eating 'food', I
suppose.
There are different levels of human; animal human,
potential human, human being, Divine Human. You will
know by your thoughts, habits and desires which you
are.
The Buddhi or intellect has to be cleaned of all bad
vibrations, to enable 'liberation'. Hence 'the
Buddha'.
'Be ye perfect as my father in heaven is
perfect!'----Jesus the Bhodisattva.
Prema, Shanti, Sathya, Dharma and Ahima, Love, Peace,
Truth, Right-Conduct, and Non-Violence. By perfecting
one we perfect them all! FIN.
To answer another point, Yes, spirituality is a
science, for everything other than Nirguna Brahman, or
Ultimate Transcendent God is within material energy
creation.
Love and Sai Ram, Tony.
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