To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/23 19:25
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: An Indian attempt at promoting veg*ism
From: Roger Bose
On 1999/11/23 19:25, Roger Bose posted thus to the K-list:
>
>Hiya!
>
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> > > what vegetarians are saying the world over
> > > human beings were not ``designed'' to eat meat.
> > > The logic is simple. Humans don't have claws to
> > > tear the meat, they don't have sharp canines to bite
> > > into it either. So, they were never meant to be
> > > carnivores.
> >
>
>To put it simply, hogwash and horseshit. Humans are the ultimate
>adapters. We are omnivores and because of our brain and tool making
>skills we don't require talons and fangs. Let those pure carnivores wear
>out their fangs and talons and energy! I'd just grab a club and Whang
>Bam, dinner is served!
I think that this is an absolutely idiotic position!! Any person who is in
a sincere search for enlightenment will naturally want to minimize the
amount of pain he doles out to the world around him.
It's so easy to go to the supermarket and buy a celophane package of meat
and eat it. This really puts a distance between the living, breathing,
feeling animal, and the package of red material bought at the supermarket.
I think meat eaters should be required to look into their eyes and kill
their own animals before eating them.
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>We are built to eat anything that moves or doesn't move. That is our
>design spec.
>
>(I can't help it!! DISCLAIMER: these are only my personal opinions based
>at the moment on nothing at all I can quote cause my dancing fingers
>just took over. I really invite discussion or criticisms or even flames!
>I am easy and might even substantiate these words at some point.)
>
>
> > > bottomline is that being a vegetarian is cheaper
> > > and of course, a whole lot healthier.
> >
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>Moderation rules. If everyone practiced moderation in their cuisine then
>it would cheaper all around.
>
>
> > > everything else is out.
> >
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>I prefer my steak medium rare...or in a pinch, rare will do. I just
>don't wanna see it moving when I start cutting. Lots of restaurants seem
>to cater to my desires so I would guess that carnivores are still In.
Unfortunately, yes...
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> > > mad cow disease and the chicken infection. ``Today,
> >
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>I just wanna know why they are so mad. Hmm, come to think of it, I would
>be mad too if people wanted to eat me all the time. Well, outside of a
>few lady friends...umm, never mind, I am not going there cause ... well,
>I am not. *blush*
>
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> > > environment and economics. Killing an animal is
> > > violence, it disturbs the ecological balance and
> > > meat is more expensive. On all three counts, vegetables
What would be perhaps interesting is pieces of meat raised artificially in
incubators. Say a chicken breast or a New York steak raised in a controlled
environment. Putting an end to the slaughter of animals.
> >
>
>How does he equate violence to ecology and expense? hmm, fascinating.
>
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> > > vegetarian, there would be no wars. Explaining, he
> > > says: ``Animals can sense when they are going to
> > > be slaughtered and secrete toxic substances into their
> > > bloodstream. When people eat that meat, it induces
> > > anger in them, makes them poisonous. The best
> >
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>Whoa..mebbe I should order my steak well done so the violence producing
>toxic substances are cooked out. So, are there any studies underway
>about toxic substances produced by plants when they are about to be
>harvested? PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS TOO!!
>
>Actually, to stop being so silly, I eat very little meat but I like it
>on occasion and personally have no problems with being an omnivore.
It's difficult to abstain from meat when living in the world. When everyone
around you is eating meat. I myself have tried to cut back and eliminate
meat altogether. So far it's going ok. But initially the smell of meat
gave me intense cravings. I wonder why God made meat tast so good? I am
trying to find alternatives. I'm not saying I'm perfect, and I'll never
slip back into purchasing a burger from a fast food joint. But I am
focusing my efforts to minimize meat intake, and cut it out altogether.
This makes sense spiritually.
Roger
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>-Steve.
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