To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/21 09:03
Subject: [K-list] Re: K and Hospitalization
From: BreadCasters
On 1999/11/21 09:03, BreadCasters posted thus to the K-list:
Thank you for clarifying your views, Jenell. I'm not sure what you
meant by my "unresolved conflicts", though I do not deny that I am still
very much on the path. Certainly, I am an advocate for the mentally
ill, whether the illness is obviously related to K or not. Society has
a long way to go in understanding and accepting. The situations you
discuss seem to involve relatively benign phenomena that do not
overwhelm the psyche and produce great fear, panic or clinical
depression. I myself have been blessed with my share of these positive
effects. However, as I'm sure you are aware, K can also be associated
with phenomena that are frightening and potentially overwhelming, such
as described by Gopi Krishna and Christina Grof, and as caused me to
believe that I was "possessed". I consider these "negative" phenomena
to be psychotic in nature, and I do not think we are in a position to
really distinguish betweeen "true psychosis" (which, as I have argued,
could still be K-related) and these very disturbing but obviously
K-related phenomena.
Blessings,
Robert
(http://www.breadcasters.com)
Jenell wrote:
"I don't know how you possibly got this idea from what I posted. This is
aparantly an issue you have unresolved conflicts about. I apologize if
any thing I wrote seemed to be saying this to you, but it was not at
all
my intent. I certainly don't have any thought of k awakened people as
being in any way superior to anyone else, the mentally ill or
otherwise. I've had more close up experience with truly mentally ill
people than I'd wish I'd had in my life, there is very definitely a
major difference between mental illess and the non-psychotic, but
confusing, and often misunderstood, aspects of the k phenomenon.
Certainly if a person is suicidal, or unable to function in ordinary
life, are a risk to the safety of themselves or others, intervention of
that kind is warranted. The man mentioned in my own post was pressured
by family and doctors to enter a hospital for 'treatment', based on
such
as his trying to tell them about things such as having 'vision flashes'
throughout his day of events, scenes, he would witness 'for real' later
in the day, what I would call 'near future precognition' flashes. I was
myself 'threatened' with hospitalization by a family member when my k
related 'paranormal' phenomenon began, telepathy, clairvoiyance,
feeling
these 'energies', etc, and I had to stop talking about it with him. I
don't think anyone should be subjected to, or consider, hospitalization
for such as that. For both he and myself, the 'emotional releases', the
bouts of deep, uncontrollable crying, was also viewed with a negative
suspicion, though both of us were not demonstrating any other
'symptoms'
of depression, etc. Neither myself nor that man were non-functional in
everyday life, and there was no indication of our being 'dangerous' to
ourselves or others. These kinds of misunderstandings about in k
awakenings."
Jenell
BreadCasters wrote:
>
> Hello again:
>
> I am concerned that attempts to distinguish between 'actual
psychosis'
> and 'kundalini-related effects' may be misguided efforts to place the
> 'k-enlightened' in a special group, somehow apart from and perhaps
> better than those suffering from 'actual mental illness'. In my
case, I
> had a spontaneous and overwhelming K-awakening in 1981 (which cured
my
> panic attacks), nearly eight years before my hospitalization for
acute
> psychosis. There is no question that the two were related. But that
> doesn't mean that I wasn't mentally ill - clearly, by definition, I
> was. I view all mental illness, whether obviously K-related or not,
as
> spiritual illness. Awakening of K is a vital and necessary part of
> overall healing and return to the Source. In some, it happens
suddenly,
> with the potential to overwhelm the psyche; in others, it may happen
so
> gradually that they are not even aware of it. Regardless, I am
> convinced it will eventually lead all of us (whether in this
incarnation
> or another), including those diagnosed with 'actual mental illness',
to
> discover who we really are.
>
> For those who are interested, I discuss my experiences and philosophy
in
> more depth on my website, http://www.breadcasters.com.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Robert
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