To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/20 20:46
Subject: Re: [K-list] Hospitalization
From: Jenell
On 1999/11/20 20:46, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
I don't know how you possibly got this idea from what I posted. This is
aparantly an issue you have unresolved conflicts about. I apologize if
any thing I wrote seemed to be saying this to you, but it was not at all
my intent. I certainly don't have any thought of k awakened people as
being in any way superior to anyone else, the mentally ill or
otherwise. I've had more close up experience with truly mentally ill
people than I'd wish I'd had in my life, there is very definitely a
major difference between mental illess and the non-psychotic, but
confusing, and often misunderstood, aspects of the k phenomenon.
Certainly if a person is suicidal, or unable to function in ordinary
life, are a risk to the safety of themselves or others, intervention of
that kind is warranted. The man mentioned in my own post was pressured
by family and doctors to enter a hospital for 'treatment', based on such
as his trying to tell them about things such as having 'vision flashes'
throughout his day of events, scenes, he would witness 'for real' later
in the day, what I would call 'near future precognition' flashes. I was
myself 'threatened' with hospitalization by a family member when my k
related 'paranormal' phenomenon began, telepathy, clairvoiyance, feeling
these 'energies', etc, and I had to stop talking about it with him. I
don't think anyone should be subjected to, or consider, hospitalization
for such as that. For both he and myself, the 'emotional releases', the
bouts of deep, uncontrollable crying, was also viewed with a negative
suspicion, though both of us were not demonstrating any other 'symptoms'
of depression, etc. Neither myself nor that man were non-functional in
everyday life, and there was no indication of our being 'dangerous' to
ourselves or others. These kinds of misunderstandings about in k
awakenings.
Jenell
BreadCasters wrote:
>
> Hello again:
>
> I am concerned that attempts to distinguish between 'actual psychosis'
> and 'kundalini-related effects' may be misguided efforts to place the
> 'k-enlightened' in a special group, somehow apart from and perhaps
> better than those suffering from 'actual mental illness'. In my case, I
> had a spontaneous and overwhelming K-awakening in 1981 (which cured my
> panic attacks), nearly eight years before my hospitalization for acute
> psychosis. There is no question that the two were related. But that
> doesn't mean that I wasn't mentally ill - clearly, by definition, I
> was. I view all mental illness, whether obviously K-related or not, as
> spiritual illness. Awakening of K is a vital and necessary part of
> overall healing and return to the Source. In some, it happens suddenly,
> with the potential to overwhelm the psyche; in others, it may happen so
> gradually that they are not even aware of it. Regardless, I am
> convinced it will eventually lead all of us (whether in this incarnation
> or another), including those diagnosed with 'actual mental illness', to
> discover who we really are.
>
> For those who are interested, I discuss my experiences and philosophy in
> more depth on my website, http://www.breadcasters.com.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Robert
> ........
>
> Jenell wrote:
> Subject: Re: [K-list] Hospitalization
>
> "My comments were directed not at those suffering actual psychosis,
> certainly I'd not discourage them seeking appropriate help, but those
> in
> which symptoms of kundalini related effects are mistaken, especially by
> others, as mental illness. I'm not sure what kind of governement job
> you
> held that was not affected, but it would affect many kinds of jobs,
> carreers. Hospitalization for and/or diagnosis of mental/emotional
> illness information is required on application for many jobs, and can
> be
> used to disqualify applicants, is used routinely, in many fields. It
> can
> also affect personal life, as in the case of the man I mentioned, his
> marriage breaking up, his hosptialization and 'diagnosis' of a
> 'breakdown' negatively affected his court case regarding custody of
> their child, for example."
> Jenell
>
> BreadCasters wrote:
> >
> > Hello list:
> >
> > This post is in reponse to Jenell, who wrote:
> >
> > "BUT the 'worst' effects of a hospital expereince for many is
> > what that
> > on their 'health records' can do in many areas of life, for a
> > long
> > time, even the rest of their lives. It can disqualify them
> > from many jobs,
> > complicate their defense if ever charged with a criminal act,
> > continue
> > to have devastating effects on their credibility in many ways
> > for a
> > long time. So no one should EVER take lightly the idea of
> > entering a
> > hospital for what might be considered mental/emotional
> > difficulties. I can have some pretty bad effects on other
> > areas of one's life."
> >
> > When I was hospitalized back in 1988 for an acute psychotic
> depression
> > (precipitated by my sister's suicide), the last thing on my mind was
> > concern about future effects. At that time, it was a choice between
> > that or suicide (and I had a wife and three children). My hospital
> stay
> > was really a lifesaver. I would not want anyone in my position to
> not
> > seek this refuge for fear of future ramifications.
> >
> > Indeed, I am not aware of any serious negative consequences of my
> > hospitalization. I had a government job at the time, and not long
> > afterward, I voluntarily left and joined the private sector. My
> > hospital stay is a reminder of how sick I was, and how much progress
> I
> > have made (for which I am extremely grateful).
> >
> > We are each following our individual path back to God. For some of
> us,
> > a stay in the hospital may be a vital part of our journey.
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> > Robert
> > (http://www.breadcasters.com)
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