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Recieved: 1999/11/20 08:58
Subject: Re: Re: [K-list] Hospitalization
From: BreadCasters


On 1999/11/20 08:58, BreadCasters posted thus to the K-list:

Hello again:

I am concerned that attempts to distinguish between 'actual psychosis'
and 'kundalini-related effects' may be misguided efforts to place the
'k-enlightened' in a special group, somehow apart from and perhaps
better than those suffering from 'actual mental illness'. In my case, I
had a spontaneous and overwhelming K-awakening in 1981 (which cured my
panic attacks), nearly eight years before my hospitalization for acute
psychosis. There is no question that the two were related. But that
doesn't mean that I wasn't mentally ill - clearly, by definition, I
was. I view all mental illness, whether obviously K-related or not, as
spiritual illness. Awakening of K is a vital and necessary part of
overall healing and return to the Source. In some, it happens suddenly,
with the potential to overwhelm the psyche; in others, it may happen so
gradually that they are not even aware of it. Regardless, I am
convinced it will eventually lead all of us (whether in this incarnation
or another), including those diagnosed with 'actual mental illness', to
discover who we really are.

For those who are interested, I discuss my experiences and philosophy in
more depth on my website, http://www.breadcasters.com.

Blessings,

Robert
 ........

Jenell wrote:
Subject: Re: [K-list] Hospitalization

"My comments were directed not at those suffering actual psychosis,
certainly I'd not discourage them seeking appropriate help, but those
in
which symptoms of kundalini related effects are mistaken, especially by
others, as mental illness. I'm not sure what kind of governement job
you
held that was not affected, but it would affect many kinds of jobs,
carreers. Hospitalization for and/or diagnosis of mental/emotional
illness information is required on application for many jobs, and can
be
used to disqualify applicants, is used routinely, in many fields. It
can
also affect personal life, as in the case of the man I mentioned, his
marriage breaking up, his hosptialization and 'diagnosis' of a
'breakdown' negatively affected his court case regarding custody of
their child, for example."
Jenell

BreadCasters wrote:
>
> Hello list:
>
> This post is in reponse to Jenell, who wrote:
>
> "BUT the 'worst' effects of a hospital expereince for many is
> what that
> on their 'health records' can do in many areas of life, for a
> long
> time, even the rest of their lives. It can disqualify them
> from many jobs,
> complicate their defense if ever charged with a criminal act,
> continue
> to have devastating effects on their credibility in many ways
> for a
> long time. So no one should EVER take lightly the idea of
> entering a
> hospital for what might be considered mental/emotional
> difficulties. I can have some pretty bad effects on other
> areas of one's life."
>
> When I was hospitalized back in 1988 for an acute psychotic
depression
> (precipitated by my sister's suicide), the last thing on my mind was
> concern about future effects. At that time, it was a choice between
> that or suicide (and I had a wife and three children). My hospital
stay
> was really a lifesaver. I would not want anyone in my position to
not
> seek this refuge for fear of future ramifications.
>
> Indeed, I am not aware of any serious negative consequences of my
> hospitalization. I had a government job at the time, and not long
> afterward, I voluntarily left and joined the private sector. My
> hospital stay is a reminder of how sick I was, and how much progress
I
> have made (for which I am extremely grateful).
>
> We are each following our individual path back to God. For some of
us,
> a stay in the hospital may be a vital part of our journey.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Robert
> (http://www.breadcasters.com)

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