To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/16 19:15
Subject: Re: [K-list] deities...continued!
From: Smilingjaguar
On 1999/11/16 19:15, Smilingjaguar posted thus to the K-list:
> more or less. it isn't an action, it is a non-action.
Acitve non-action. You love your paradoxes, don't you? :) Don't feel bad, I
love mine too. :) Even my contradictions are something I love.
>However, it does tend to illustrate my point I hope.
Very well. I'm somewhere between the cane pole and cork and the bass boat
with all the trimmings. :)
> > Yes, I think I'm very devil's advocate today.
>
> Interesting, I have been feeling quite warm myself.
Just a stretch after a long lurker period...basically a sense to straighten
me out before speaking to anyone else...and besides...gives me time to be the
experimentor and the guinea pig. :)
> Whew, glad I didn't REALLY piss you off.
Well, I married a guy who proclaimed himself an asshole the first time we
met, so....*grins while laughing, ducking and running*
> Well, I am kinda new so feel free to kick me out or gimme a bit of time to
> settle
> in and become inscrutable. I DID lurk for a month or so before I couldn't
> repress
> my communicative fingers.
I think everyone was lurking that month, LOL. :) Make yourself at home. :)
> I understand and as I said, I am VERY tolerant of anyones belief
structure.
> The
> only exceptions are when the 7th Day Adventists or Mormons or Baptists
come
> to my
> front door trying to get inside and convert me. Then, I just say, "Sure, I
> was
> just ready to slaughter a black chicken to celebrate Shaitan's glory, come
> on
> in.". Funny, they never come in.
I like putting food coloring on the pamphlets and throw them ripped up all
over the yard with my black chow/wolf hybrid...a little ketchup in the fur
for effect on him. Funny, they don't come in the gate, and I get to sleep
in. :)
> But again, to be annoyingly precise, it is all within each persons ego
that
> they
> object.
Perhaps not. I don't think anyone can say for sure what anyone else's ego
structure is like or where a certain tendency comes from. Emlightenment does
not equal doormat.
I enjoyed 99% of your emails but when you said I was difficult and
> disrespectful I plain out REACTED! That came from my inner desires to
never
> harm
> anyone which is part of my personal ego, my self.
If I hurt you, I apologize. I gailed miserably at trying to let you know
that occasionally your technique leaves something to be desired in the realm
of I guess politeness. It's hard to talk with someone who is constantly
saying *prove it, prove it* when you and he both know all we can speak from
is our own experience. It is a tad annoying, and my jaguar claws come out
occasionally after a little while. I suppose I still correspond with you in
a way because I am trying to figure out what about you provokes me so.
Researching myself, you see? :)
> I get your point though. I suppose I have an irritant to people stating
> things as
> if they are the Truth.
There is no The Truth. There is My Truth, though...concocted from
experiments and personal subjective experiences. I suppose we all get so
used to this list being majority subjective that we no longer put disclaimers
of subjectivity on them...it's almost expected. :) Everything in life is
subjective...I don't believe there is one thing in the cosmos that is
objective.
Guess I just need to let that one go too. After all,
> what I
> do not left affect me does not affect me.
It affects...but what bothers me is what I allow to bother me. You intrigued
me, so I allowed you to bother me for further exploration. Make any sense?
> Please don't, I don't feel threatened but I sensed you did from your
> responses. If
> we are both non-threatened then all is right with the world.
Lately I've been pulling my claws out inadvertently...I *do* apologize for
that.
> Sheesh, where did THAT come from? Above you adopt a "I am an experimenter"
> mask
> and now you slip back into the "I am threatened" mode.
If I was in threatened mode, it wouldn't be said on the list, and I'd shred
you and then ignore you. 'Alpha Wolves' as Angelique puts it, are extremely
vicious in that sense.
Which is real?
Both and neither, depending on the day, and the person perceiving my words.
I
> attack no
> one. I merely questioned and when people responded with "My way is the
Truth"
I saw them as saying "my way is my truth". The list has always been a home
where you speak your mind without disclaimers...everything is subjective.
Once I started accepting that (unless you get curious like me and want to
research the reaction), the K-list became much more digestable.
> If anyone felt attacked, I offer my sincere apologies. (including you
> Kimberly).
> Honest questions and discourse don't appear to be acceptable to some here.
It's welcomed if it comes in a polite manner. Look around. It happens all
the time.
> Well, I wasn't thinking of overloading. Matter is just energy in a
> manifestation
> anway, in my humble, unlearned, naive opinion. hehe.
Actually, that's my idea of it too, but as it is manifested it takes on the
structure to handle energy, and by using some of it's energy to manifest
instead of drawing it like a soul without a body could, it has less of an
ability.
> Got to be a way. hmmm. Nothing is impossible, what appears to be an
> impossibility
I didn't say it was impossible...just highly improbable. The pain threshold
can be raised with time, and my theory is that the physical body could raise
it's ultimate threshold too, given the time to do it, which unfortunately
would be longer than the shell lives. So either new methods or longer life
span.
> only means we don't understand it clearly enough yet. Another base,
unproven
> statement completely open to ridicule and attack! *wild laughter*
No, actually I think physicists are moving to that conclusion as well.
Are you unused to
> debate
> and conversation?
Nope, not at all. Like I said...you provoke a reaction in me...I'm just here
to study it.
I also only have
> limited
> patience with fools.
*laughs* You're not the only one. I'm beginning to conclude that we both do
not communicate with each other well....we miss the mark both ways.
Kimberly
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