To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/16 18:08
Subject: Re: [K-list] Am I being pompous & obnoxious (was: Society, ener
From: Jenell
On 1999/11/16 18:08, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
How true. Both that much we experience of a spiritual nature seems to
defy description in words, there are no words in our language 'here' for
many things 'there', and that our thoughts are constantly processing and
evolving.
but it seems there is a real need for some effort to come up with some
'cross reference' kind of thing, since i began trying to find things
that descibe what has happened to me, I encounter throughout many
cultures things that I 'recognize' as being the same experience, but
often worded quite differently for how people in that culture or
religion or spirituality group themselves comprehended it, experienced
it. And often people arguing that one is more right than another, or
that becasue they aren't familiar with something, it doesn't exists or
it's wrong, etc, when if one actually HEARS them, they are describing
the same things. We HAVE to use words, the words each of us has, and the
idea forms our expereince have given us, to cummunicate, about things
none of us really have adequate words to exlain.
Jenell
Ville Vainio wrote:
>
> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 MHortlingATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> > ego rearing it's ugly head - I don't have a clue but I have to admit that at
> > times I'm a bit embarassed by this obvious rift between my everyday more or
> > less freewheeling personality and that other heavy stuff - I'd really
> > appreciate some feedback and thoughts on this issue ....
>
> This is rift is actually quite necessary. We all (uh, almost) need a more
> "relaxed" personality to survive in the world out there with "normal"
> people & other critters. I suppose that all of us would use a slightly
> different tone in our posts if we knew our casual acquaintances were
> reading this list too... but it's kinda nice to have a place to be
> verbally honest, especially in a place filled with people similar to
> oneself. I guess it is easier for those of us who don't speak English as
> our native language to "make the transition". I have noticed that when I'm
> "talk":king (a unix chat program) with someone in English (for fun), I
> notice that I tend to drift to a more spiritual mindset and have to make a
> little effort to "stay down".
>
> It's also natural to feel regret for some things one has written... the
> issues we handle here are quite un-verbal, and it's hard to get everything
> quite the way we would have wanted to say it (this is one thing to think
> about before critisizing other people's views, BTW). It seems that
> spirituality seems to create some kind of aversion to putting things in
> verbal form. Prior to K writing used to be very easy for me, nowadays
> everything I write seems to have some degree of wrong-ness about it (I
> immediately make up numerous counter-arguments to my own arguments). I
> would be content if I just wrote "braarahuuh", but that would not make
> much sense to anyone else (and would look immensely stupid to me also, on
> the following day).
>
> The messages we send live in the moment, and the ego is more prominent
> when we are reviewing our posts. As for your posts, specifically, I don't
> see any more pomposity than in an average k-list posts (though I may be
> the wrong person to say this, since I tend to have views similar to yours
> in many issues).
>
> Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
> Wild geese have no intention to cast a reflection
> Water has no mind to assume their form
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