To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/16 16:33
Subject: [K-list] deities...continued!
From: Steve Salter
On 1999/11/16 16:33, Steve Salter posted thus to the K-list:
Kimberly replied:
> > You take things too literally. By the act of not acting, by not seeking,
> > by not trying, I act, I find, I do.
>
> Which means that by not seeking you seek, right?
>
more or less. it isn't an action, it is a non-action.
Kind of like fishing two different ways. One way, you wait in a stream with your
hands cupped below the surface in the current. You wait for the fish to come to
you and when it does, you grasp it.
The other way is to haul out your favorite bass boat complete with trolling motor,
two tackle boxes of equipment, beer and coldcuts in the cooler, a spare battery,
electronic fish finder and then you roar about casting and searching and working
so hard that when you arrive back at home you collapse exhaustedly into your easy
chair and say, "Wow, that sure was relaxing."
Of course, piscatorial enthusiasts note that I expressed extremes without
mentioning the elegant dry fly fishing or the enjoyably lazy cane pole/bobber
techniques. However, it does tend to illustrate my point I hope.
>
> Yes, I think I'm very devil's advocate today.
Interesting, I have been feeling quite warm myself.
>
> Actually, jackass tends to be a good thing coming from me. :)
Whew, glad I didn't REALLY piss you off.
>
> Actually, honestly speaking, it was watching your response to not only what I
> say, but to the views of others as well. It is well acknowldeged on this
> list that we can't prove anything...that all we have is our experience. It
Well, I am kinda new so feel free to kick me out or gimme a bit of time to settle
in and become inscrutable. I DID lurk for a month or so before I couldn't repress
my communicative fingers.
> agnostics. See what I'm saying? We know. We are here to share, not to
> preach. When we share, we are not telling people how it should be, but how
> we see it, even though sometimes it sounds all wrong.
I understand and as I said, I am VERY tolerant of anyones belief structure. The
only exceptions are when the 7th Day Adventists or Mormons or Baptists come to my
front door trying to get inside and convert me. Then, I just say, "Sure, I was
just ready to slaughter a black chicken to celebrate Shaitan's glory, come on
in.". Funny, they never come in.
>
> Not really. Most people object to people jumping up and down and screaming
> prove it. I'm not attached to most things, but I am curious, and I do like
But again, to be annoyingly precise, it is all within each persons ego that they
object. I enjoyed 99% of your emails but when you said I was difficult and
disrespectful I plain out REACTED! That came from my inner desires to never harm
anyone which is part of my personal ego, my self.
I get your point though. I suppose I have an irritant to people stating things as
if they are the Truth. Guess I just need to let that one go too. After all, what I
do not left affect me does not affect me.
>
> I am tempted to apologize if you felt threatened
Please don't, I don't feel threatened but I sensed you did from your responses. If
we are both non-threatened then all is right with the world.
> ROTFL...I'm intolerant but you attack anyone on list who chooses to use
> religion in any form?
Sheesh, where did THAT come from? Above you adopt a "I am an experimenter" mask
and now you slip back into the "I am threatened" mode. Which is real? I attack no
one. I merely questioned and when people responded with "My way is the Truth" I
asked them how they knew it to be such.
If anyone felt attacked, I offer my sincere apologies. (including you Kimberly).
Honest questions and discourse don't appear to be acceptable to some here.
> the strength of the power to overload...besides, what would be the point?
> Physical death before achieving what is needed and you come back again?
Well, I wasn't thinking of overloading. Matter is just energy in a manifestation
anway, in my humble, unlearned, naive opinion. hehe.
> Over saturation causes a great deal of pain that cannot be numbed by
> painkillers...complete misery.
Got to be a way. hmmm. Nothing is impossible, what appears to be an impossibility
only means we don't understand it clearly enough yet. Another base, unproven
statement completely open to ridicule and attack! *wild laughter*
> > How can something be "wrong"?
>
> I don't know. You seem to do a good job of telling people they are.
>
List one person, Kimberly, where I said "you are wrong". Are you unused to debate
and conversation? If I said anything to hurt your feelings, let me know and I will
apologize to you. I am not in this world to hurt others. I also only have limited
patience with fools.
(NOTE: this was a generic remark. Major disclaimer! 1st reference is the line
about the 7th day Adventists, Mormons and Baptists that used to annoy me. It took
one guy three weeks of convincing before he gave me up as damned. I consider him a
fool.)
-Steve.
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