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Recieved: 1999/11/15 12:58
Subject: [K-list] kundalini
From: winter mute
On 1999/11/15 12:58, winter mute posted thus to the K-list:
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Only the gate
of the abbey is left,
on the winter moor.
-Shiki
On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:00:43 Wim Borsboom wrote:
>The Kundalini PROCESS is your own self-regenerative process that restores
>you to your fully integrated dimensionality of being, your total
>re-integration. One's original total being and one's space-time-related
>present being CONDITIONLESSLY coincide in One's human/divine Unity . (Notice
>the capitalization of One and one.)
>This fully integrated dimensionality can be quite effectively and rather
>comprehensively described (though always falling short of course, as it is
>after all STILL conceptual) by using the 7 (or more) chakras system as
>evidenced in the cerebro-spinal-fluid circulatory system, or the 7 (more or
>less) koshas system as evidenced in the human gross and subtle body/aura
>unit.
>Your quote/unquote psycho-spiritual-ideation-that-arouses-divine-feelings,
>is part of a full realization at the brow-crown chakra levels. It cannot be
>separated from or qualified as more or less supreme (I know you didn't say
>that, so it is my emphasis ) than the realization at the (for argument's
>sake) root-sacral chakra levels, where the more vital-creative aspects of
>One's total being are realized.
:) Yes.
Many sources describe a "different" Kundalini as
it rises from the muladhar to the sahasrarar.
But they are really all the one and the same,
only seen from a varying perspctive.
How otherwise could it be "Kundalini" ?
>Kundalini is the healing process of the degenerated human/divine being. I
>know integral beings who will not await and are not anticipating this
>process.
>K is not a sign of being someone special, K is not a grace, K lets us
>recover our original grace. Everyone-not-whole is in some stage of
>Kundalini's recovery process, often interrupted. Everyone-not-whole sooner
>or later will realize the K process.
:)) This is my experience too.
I was very sick, not physically or
even psychologically but
spiritually prior to K starting
to move in earnest.
It had then been working at a low and almost
invisible level up until then.
Since my last memories from the previous life
and the first memories of this life
is that of Kundalini moving,
I seriously believe one major reason for me to be
here this time around is to heal up and
experience the
wholeness that Kundalini can afford.
Some ppl have hypothesized that Kundalini
awakens by itself when the soul has hit rock bottom,
when it has come as far away from the original
source as it can get.
I don't know about this, but I suspect it may have
been the case for me...
Other ppl have hypothesized that Kundalini awakens
when a balance b/n "good" and "bad" karma has
been reached and the soul is ready to do some
serious work.
I don't know about this one either. :)
>The Kundalini process finishes naturally... dissolves into redundancy when
>integration is realized at an instance of 'time/space-less', the
>unconditioned realization of all multi-dimensional conditions. This instance
>goes by unnoticed... it is no big deal.
Really ?
:) I thought it would arrive with big fanfare and
mucho spectacle, fireworks and the like.
I am so disappointed now. ;))
Now I don't have anything to look forward to
in my dreary Kundalini Boot Camp life... ;(
>The story of recovery may be a big
>deal, mine for example is, but then I endured a lot of deception. The story
>in itself is not important, although very interesting, a testimonial only of
>when and how the illusive calamity of human deception started and
>degenerated in my line of memory.
Nice. ;)
>The K process, when uninterrupted, takes 960 days, to which an additional
>optional 40 days (960 hours) and another optional 12 days can be added.
Again, where do you get these numbers from ?
I have seen averages from 3 years to 10.
And always regarded 3 years as pretty fast
but heard of shorter times. :)
like e.g. Buddha, who spent 7 weeks. ;)
>There is an 'AHA Erlebniss' hidden in there somewhere...
Aha, I see... ;)
>Please, give the above ideas a chance before reacting, you may be surprised
>at the intensity of your agreement down the line... ;-)
LOLOL ! I really do hope so. :)
Thanks for your input, very interesting to read.
Most sources are veeery tightlipped about the
process for fear of... what ?
Best regards,
Amanda.
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