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Recieved: 1999/11/15 07:24
Subject: Re: [K-list] Shaktipat?
From: Jenell


On 1999/11/15 07:24, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:

I'm not trying to 'label', or claim 'label' to anything, so much as
trying to understand what such terms mean, and how any of it relates to
my own experiences. Trying to understand what the heck is going on with
me in a lot of ways. I really about as far from a power tripper or ego
inflation seeker as it gets, as the person I am. But these things are
happening to me, I want to try to understand them AND, if through this,
I AM 'affecting' (infecting?) other people, with/or without conscious
intent to do so, I most surely need to know that, and how to handle it.
I also feel, always have, very strongly about anyone 'imposing' anything
upon others without their informed consent, or against their own will
and choice.

 Jenell

As to keeping the 'extraordinary' aspects quiet, hey, it doesn't take
many encounters over this with 'normal' people to teach you the wisdom
that THAT, real fast!

Adele Chatelain wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I think one must be very careful in labeling oneself as
> 'guru' or anything else.
> From my readings of mystics, the stance seems to be
> Humility Always!; one negates being elevated to any
> position, because
> one never knows this gift was sent by the Devil in order
> to distract from the Goal, which is transcendence
> (compassion). (after all,
> there such a temptation to become conceited (ego inflation)
> if one considers oneself to being 'special'). If nothing
> else, one becomes entangled in definitions of terms (Guru,
> Teacher, etc)...and to many Saints this entanglement is
> exactly what the Devil desires because of its powerful
> distraction from the Goal.
> I think of St. Teresa of Avila who once said, 'when you
> see visions of Jesus or hear His voice...it's time to wash
> the floors!"
> There are many such quotes in Buddhism, too.
> There have been many Christian people who have received
> the Stigmata, for example and in every case that I know of,
> they have keep it to themselves as long as they possibly
> could,
> for fear of this inflation.
>
> Hugs,
> Adele

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