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Recieved: 1999/11/15 06:22
Subject: Re: Humility (was Re: [K-list] Shaktipat?
From: Adele Chatelain


On 1999/11/15 06:22, Adele Chatelain posted thus to the K-list:

Oh, I didn't think you were putting the Lists down! But
I'd love to read that stuff about 'this chakra correspnds to
this..." etc. Sounds like fun, actually.

Perhaps at one time, people from those cultures did, indeed
experience the chakras accordingly. (I'm just musing
here...).
Maybe our modern society has changed all that; put us out
off center or something.

what do you think?

Adele

Ville Vainio wrote:
>
> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Adele Chatelain wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> > I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say
> > that "Buddhism is famous for having lots of tables and
> > lists"....but it's an interesting comment.
>
> I'm talking about how "old" texts often present buddhism. They often
> present things in almost tedious detail (this chakra corresponds to this
> and that, look at table G42, footnote, for more info. This aspect of
> reality consists of D4, S8, which in turn consists of TT and R9).
>
> > The only 'lists and tables' that I have seen have
> > been valuable to me because it's taking an extremely
> > complex topic (Maps of the Mind) and making them
> > understandable.
>
> I'm not putting the lists down. They may be useful to understanding
> various things. I just think they must be "transcended" at one stage or
> another.
>
> > The lists are there as guidelines. But then you
>
> Yes.
>
> > might be referring to something else that I haven't come
> > across in my 30 year training.
>
> No need to get sarcastic :-). I'm by no means against buddhism (in my view
> buddhism is the best approximation of reality as far as existing religions
> go, and consider myself a buddhist to some extent).
>
> > That quote about Crowley and killing the dog: well,
> > as you know, in Buddhism one is supposed to work past
> > the disturbance (one wouldn't kill one's next door neighbors
> > because they were making noise---although one would like
> > to!:-))
>
> Yes, I know (though you can hardly call Crowley a buddhist), but the
> emphasis was on the spirit of the quote. There's no point in longwinded
> evening-tea-party conversations about loving nature and all life like the
> buddha-guy in the groovy India said, when there is no realization, and
> alteration of the function of the brain.
>
> Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
> We're all puppets
> The first step on the path to understanding is seeing the strings

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