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Recieved: 1999/11/14 22:25
Subject: Re: [K-list] Shaktipat?
From: Jenell
On 1999/11/14 22:25, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
Thank you. Yes, you 'define' me and how this 'feels' to my 'senses'
quite well.
As to a firm yet gentle handshake, from as early as I recall in my life,
I've had a handshake that often surprised people, firm, yet gentle, I've
realized it refelcts an inner confidence and strength that was there
even before my consciousness was aware of it, men especially, that
weren't expecting it from a woman, espcially a young woman, and one that
give no 'masculine' or 'tough' appearance in her deameanor. I am most
certainly very feminine in my apearance, demeanor, and mannerisms, and
that often causes surprise when I shake hands 'like a man'. I've had men
I respected, what we shall say, as good judges of character, tell me
that one might get the impression I'd not be one to take concern for in
any situation involving coming into a position of opposition or
competition, or one to place into a position in which they needed
someone they knew 'had what it takes' to stand strong, that could be
trusted, counted on under pressure, until they shook my hand. Though
women, espeically insecure ones, sometimes found it discomforting,
strange, perhaps threatening. People seem to not be so surprised by it
now, perhaps because I'm older, perhaps the changing culture, in which
women are take more seriously, have moved into once male only domains.
I'm also one of those that even in a strange place, I may be as lost as
anyone else, but people choose ME to approach for help in finding their
own way. I very much think ths 'comes through' at the invisible levels,
why I often do very quickly and easily gain the open trust of others,
and it is in that condition of trust that this 'channel' we speak of
opens, to allow such exchange of energies.
Jenell
Wim Borsboom wrote:
>
> Dear Jenell,
>
> You wrote:
> >Snips...I am able, through laying my hands on them,
> >to 'convey' a powerful 'Spiritual experience to them, apparently 'give'
> >them some of that kind of feeling of being 'connected' to the divine.
> >The Pentecostal types that know of this are completely in confusion,
> >since I do not and have never spoken their 'tongues', and do not accept
> >at all most of their religious doctrinal beliefs, yet I've demonstrated
> >this too completely to them for them not to accept it is really
> >happening.
> >The people I do this to, find it a very pleasant, and deeply spiritual
> >experience, though it also often involves strong 'releases' of
> >emotional pain, they feel 'lightened of some burden' afterward.
> >
> >Am I giving these people what in Hindu or whatever is called
> >'shaktipat'?
>
> When others come into contact with us bodhisattva types...
> he, he, he :-)
> (You are one, I can tell...
> Know that you are...
> Keep dissolving fear, uncertainty and questioning...
> Keep your wonderment...
> Enjoy the mystery of all this...
> The graces, the gifts...
> Grace, graces, gratitude and humility are a one-package-deal.)
>
> So again, when others come in contact with us bodhisattva types,
> in a situation where one simply assumes or invites...
> (requires actually, but we are gentle about it.)
> trust, love, truth... unconditionally...
> (or to say it differently: when all BS is expelled :-)
> something like shaktipat indeed take place.
> It is nothing grand though... it most often is hardly noticed.
> Except for a gentle sense of calm, the suspension of disbelief and fear.
> A comfort sets in...
> 'Shaktipat petite' is hard to shake...
> 'Shaktipat grande' is hard to maintain.
>
> Gentle handshakes...
> But do not be afraid of a firm squeeze once in a while.
> Compassion does not exclude firmness.
> Loving kindness without firmness is just picking at the sores of suffering.
>
> Love, Wim
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