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Recieved: 1999/11/14 21:51
Subject: Re: [K-list] Shaktipat?
From: Jenell
On 1999/11/14 21:51, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
Thank you, I'm getting some good input here, toward my understanding
these terms/concepts as they are called in the hindu traditions.
Now, to take this a bit further. I really do have some personal reasons
for this line of questioning, that include some matters of deep concern
for me. Mainly from the point of possible 'affects' I may be having on
others, even without concious awarenes of doing so or intending it. This
has less to do with any deliberate energy work I may do, but by my
merely being in close contact with others.
I have observed that some people that are or have come into contact with
me, on some personal level that involves something of a raport',
closelness, emotionally, etc, even in casual friendship or friedly
casual business contacts sense, ARE more often than I can attribute to
chance, themselves then 'experiencing' things that indicate possible
arousal of their own K, and in some, there HAS been incidents of
paranormal, 'shatki' activity, around them, in their life, to varying
extent and duration, some that have caused those persons considerable
distress. This has seemed to begin rather suddenly for them, is quite
frequent and strong for a varying, but fairly brief period, a few weeks,
then becomes more sporadic, as long as I stay away from the in that
time. However, once it begins with them, being around me again seems to
keep it 'flared up', or even cause a 're-flare', if they've not seen me
for a while.
since these have been people with no awareness of k matters, not
pursuing any interest in these things, this has been, as I said, a
discomforting thing for some of them. Others have been surprised, but
hanled it with more peacefulness, even finding humor in some of the odd
things that happen. some were immensly releived when I told them
something of the particular phenomenon they were experiencing, that it
is a know phenomenon, that they aren't crazy.
As to reiki, yes, have done some reading up on that, have a reiki healer
friend, am developng my own intuitive healng skills already.
Interestingly, this I speak of here, other's experiencing shatki
phenomenon after being in contact with me, doesn't seem to be related at
all to whether I've done actual healing work on them, either directly
with hands on, or absent, through mental focus. In fact, most of those
that have had these incidents are people I've done no such healng or
energy work on/toward at all, just casual, ordinary contact. So far, I
don't even know of one I've done deliberate work on/toward that HAS
experienced this sort of thing.
Jenell
winter mute wrote:
>
> On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 08:10:32 Jenell wrote:
>
> >Am I giving these people what in Hindu or whatever is called
> >'shaktipat'?
>
> No.
>
> Shakti-pat or Shakti-pata
> directly translated means "descendance of the power".
>
> Shakti-pat is awakening of others' Shakti,
> also called Kundalini.
>
> So, following this definition, you are not giving them
> shakti-pat.
>
> That does not mean, however, that the experiences
> are valuable and deeply spiritual for those
> who experience it and for you.
>
> Have you looked into Reiki ?
>
> What yo are doing sounds also (apart from the
> Pentecostal stuff you describe)
> like how one may describe Reiki treatments.
>
> >And if so, does that make me in some sense, a 'guru'?
>
> In the Indian traditions, a "guru" is someone who
> has been fully absorbed into the All and has retained
> the physical body. S/he is a Jivanmukti, meaning
> "liberated while living".
> (Liberated here meaning liberated of all sense
> impressions and attachments.
> These are just words. What it really entails is
> almost inpossible to understand)
> Not everybody who becomes fully and stably absorbed
> go on living in the physical body after this has
> happened.
>
> The absorbed mindbody, now being truly ego less,
> but still having an individuality (a real
> contradiction) can be recognized via various means,
> the most obvious being the state of no breathing
> and no pulse at times, indicating absorption at will
> into the infinite energy.
>
> Paramahansa Yogananda mentions this phenomenon in his
> and others' gurus many times and describes well
> his surprise at finding his master in meditation, without breathing and panicking at the sight. :D
>
> Best regards,
>
> Amanda.
>
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