To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/11/14 17:25
Subject: Re: Practical Pharamacology (was Re: [K-list] Verbal noise
From: Wim Borsboom
On 1999/11/14 17:25, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Ville,
Glad I have some time to respond to you.
Somebody wrote:
>> The use of a drug such as you took in this would be something I'd
>> seriously question. Drugs that artificially affect our normal processes
>> of the mind and emotions are usually detrimental to allowing these
>> normal processes to work themselves out to completion.
Ville wrote:
>Here, I disagree. My experience suggests that diazepam (Valium) is
>completely safe and doesn't interact with k harmfully. Getting too small a
>dose (<5mg) may make you feel uncomfortable (restless neck, typically),
but
>upping the dose helps. When k is making you feel like shit (sometimes the
>ego wants to be left alone) diazepam helps you get "through the night",
>and as there is usually no need to keep using it for extended periods of
>time, one might conclude there is no "processing" that would need to be
>done. It's like taking antihistamines for temporary allergic reaction.
>Also, I think that it's better for "wholesome development" to suppress
>feelings of random, disturbing fear/anxiety, than to cope with them and
>try to find out what's behind them (and get lost in a maze of your own
>imagination and false conclusions).
Ville, I concur so much with what you say. And to expand the discussion...
my experience with clients who use SSRIs is extremely positive. Some run of
the mill MDs, friends of mine here in Victoria, who prescribe these kind of
drugs, send their clients to me to help them deal with the so called side
effects. Side effects???... they are not. Don't want to spend time on this
right now, have done that before in one of my previous posts.
Anybody who has horror stories about these drugs... please hold your horses,
we have gotten into discussions on this before. If you know anyone who is
using these drugs and who is in some trouble, let them phone me (250 479
0001). I don't mind spending some phone time with them. Can do a lot in ten
minutes. I seem to be able to alleviate fears quickly. BTW, people who want
extended help are welcome. Would have to work out financial and housing
arrangements... but that can be done.
>BTW, short acting hypnotics (triazolam, zolpidem) are NOT recommended.
>They don't get the official VV k-approval, whereas diazepam and temazepam
>do.
Hey, I like that the VV (Ville Vainio) k-approval. Here is my official W
(Wim) k-approval.
Love, Wim
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