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Recieved: 1999/11/13 15:45
Subject: Re: [K-list] Shaktipat?
From: Jenell


On 1999/11/13 15:45, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:

Okay, Joel, I think you missed the point I was asking about. Not that I
myself feel 'connected' during meditation, but in that state, I am able
to convey to OTHERS, mostly by touch, but also sometimes them just being
in close proximity to me, something of a deep spiritual/energy
'experience', which has effect on THEM. Even those that are unable to
attain to such a state through their own meidtations at that point, or
people that don't even meditate at all. And I don't ean something they
think by 'suggestion' of an idea, for often, Ive said nothing to them of
it before I touch them, and it can range from a deep euphoric state that
lasts a few minutes, to something that plain knocks them to the floor
where they lie there, unable to move, in such a euphric, blissful state
for a few minutes. The classic Pentacostal 'slain in the spirit' thing.
And the feel, afterward, as if they have had a 'burden lifted',
something at issue within them resolved, negative emotions released.

Now, second part. I have read of this called 'shaktipat'. Is this what
this is?
  
Third part. In what I read, it indicated that ONLY one that has attained
themself to the state of 'guru' has this ability.

Jenell

joel wrote:
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> > And if so, does that make me in some sense, a 'guru'? Not in some level
> > of knowing teachings related to that, but in actual spritual attainment
> > of that?
>
> No one could say for sure i think, since we don't know you in person,
> But i can say what i think. i think that if someone or something can give
> you
> some power (or energy) that it doesn't make you a guru, i think and suppose
> that a guru is a complete teacher, and not just be able to do (this) one
> thing...
> And i can also say that i feel 'connected' too when i meditate.

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