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Recieved: 1999/11/07 20:45
Subject: Re: [K-list] Audient phenomenon
From: Jenell
On 1999/11/07 20:45, Jenell posted thus to the K-list:
I am already familar with that theory. The bicameral minds s basially
the animal mnd, the theory being that this was the state of man's
primative mind before he developed 'human' consciousness, abilty to
think and reason and choose, as opposed to animalisitc response to
instincts and biologically programmed responses, much as migratory
creatures are 'programmed' and 'instructed' without thought to migrate
as they do, or female animals knowing instinctively how to care for
their young. I don't buy it as presented by that writer. And even in
context of that theory, no, what I've experienced would not fit that,
anyway. This does not involved my being 'instructed' or 'directed' in my
actions, and I feel no 'compulsion' to 'do' anything in connection to
it, it had thus far provided me with real, material INFORMATION, that I
could not have 'known' through observations made by any of my 'normal'
senses, that I can then integrate into my own thought and decision
making processes.
The only posssiblity I can think of as to these 'messages' originating
in my own mind is that the information has first been gathered through
clairvoyant means, access to the akashic records or something, and then
my own subconcious using that means to feed it into my consciousness. I
don't say that's what I think it is, but that's the only way I thing my
own mind could be producing the phenomenon.
As an example of what I mean by real information, that I then could
integrate into my own through processes, in the instancve in which I had
'asked' spiritually for asistance in a situation, and then 'heard' what
I needed to know through that person's voice with the 'doubled
wordings', what I had 'needed' was information about where other people
were in a situation, what others were doing, where they were 'coming
from', so to speak, AND some of the physcal, material event factors that
could imfluence the situation. Now, SOME of what I was 'given' in that
'message' WERE possible options I had considered in those things, but
had no way of being sure of, but SOME of it also gave me information I
hadn't ANY awareness of, therefore any thought of ncluding in my making
choices in the matter. And things I could NOT have known through any
'noprmal' means of observation or reasoning process. and when it all
worked out, all I had been given through that message turned out
completely ACCURATE.
Jenell
Martin Thompson wrote:
>
> 12:18:37 Sun, 7 Nov 1999
> Jenell at Jenell <anglfthrATnospamiamerica.net> writes:
> >I already have telepathy, 'talk' in my mind to other people, also some
> >caliraudience, words heard inside my head, from spiritual sources, that
> >isn't what I'm describing here. These words, messages, I HEAR,
> >literally, OUTSIDE my own self, not just inside my head. And theynare
> >MESSAGES, unrelated to anything of the person that actually spoke
> >something else, or, as with the thunder, there was no other person
> >involved.
> >
> Check out the book I suggested, or at least the web link; this sounds
> very similar to the phenomenon Julian Jaynes seems to be talking about:
> he says people literally used to hear the voices of their "god" and the
> voices generally had a spiritual or religious feel or aura about them.
> --
> Martin Thompson martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk
> London, UK
> Home Page: http://www.tucana.demon.co.uk
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>
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